Justice League (2017)

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Who needs to read a review when you can just look up a percentage on the tomatometer...

RT isn't the bible or whatever but it's sometimes nice to know what the general opinion of it is. That said, sites like Metacritic are a lot better because on one hand you can see the pundits' score and at the same time, you can see the average movie-goer's score which also is more fuel to the "critics are bought out" conspiracy theorists:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/justice-league

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

RT isn't the bible or whatever but it's sometimes nice to know what the general opinion of it is. That said, sites like Metacritic are a lot better because on one hand you can see the pundits' score and at the same time, you can see the average movie-goer's score which also is more fuel to the "critics are bought out" conspiracy theorists:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/justice-league

RT also does what you are describing. They have a critics score and an audience score. Critic scores mean dick to me but I am, a good majority of the time, right on with the audience score. The audience scored well on Justice League but the critics abused it. I for once was going along with the critics on this one.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BigRichard

RT also does what you are describing. They have a critics score and an audience score. Critic scores mean dick to me but I am, a good majority of the time, right on with the audience score. The audience scored well on Justice League but the critics abused it. I for once was going along with the critics on this one.

Yeah 7.2 for metacritic and 8.5 from audience scores on RT. Both better than BVS theatrical which shouldve never been released...UE should've been the theatrical one.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

RT isn't the bible or whatever but it's sometimes nice to know what the general opinion of it is. That said, sites like Metacritic are a lot better because on one hand you can see the pundits' score and at the same time, you can see the average movie-goer's score which also is more fuel to the "critics are bought out" conspiracy theorists:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/justice-league

Average movie goer scores are inherently biased on the high side, because most people who go to a movie want it to be good. It doesn't mean all the scores will be bloated, but it is something to take into account.

Using critics is a pretty easy, efficient, and sensible, way to decide how to spend your movie dollars. Find a group of critics whose opinions generally line up with yours. Stick with them until you see consistent divergence.

And, apparently, you need to avoid listening to CP's comics fanboys about DCU movies.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Average movie goer scores are inherently biased on the high side, because most people who go to a movie want it to be good. It doesn't mean all the scores will be bloated, but it is something to take into account.

Using critics is a pretty easy, efficient, and sensible, way to decide how to spend your movie dollars. Find a group of critics whose opinions generally line up with yours. Stick with them until you see consistent divergence.

And, apparently, you need to avoid listening to CP's comics fanboys about DCU movies.

You don't even have to find one with whom you agree. You just have to find one whose opinions are consistent. If you consistently enjoy movies a critic hates, that's as good as anything.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

You don't even have to find one with whom you agree. You just have to find one whose opinions are consistent. If you consistently enjoy movies a critic hates, that's as good as anything.

Good point

[ThaVirus]

Well, it certainly wasn't a great movie but it was entertaining.

Spoiler!

To keep it simple I'll break down the good and the bad.

Good:
-It's every one of our inner 8 year old's fantasy on the big screen
-The Flash was well done. They need to change up his suit, IMO, but the lightning effects were cool and he got more than a few laughs out of my theater.
-Aquaman and Mera were pretty cool, though the Atlantis scene could have benefitted from the Aquaman standalone film coming first.
-Green Lantern cameo. I was worried they'd try and form the league without him. Now they just need to find a way to include Martian Manhunter and Shazam.
-Deathstroke and the Legion of Doom. **** yes.
-However gratuitous that Supes vs the League scene was, it was awesome. I loved how he was tracking Flash's movements as he was grappling the others.

The bad:
-Way too much green screen.
-Shitty CGI. There was a scene where Cyborg turns his head and the effects just looked like absolute shit. Superman's upper lip looked bad. Most action scenes with Wonder Woman were poorly done, I thought.
-It was obviously rushed and missing scenes, particularly Cyborg telling Batman he didn't think he was real and Alfred talking to whoever saying "he told me you'd come; let's just hope it isn't too late".
-Forgettable villain. He was seriously as bad as Malekith from Thor 2.
-They used the same plot from Man of Steel. Bad guy wants to take over Earth and transform it into his home world a la WMD.
-The Russian family that existed solely to be rescued. So pointless.
-Batman took a big step back in this iteration. He was essentially reduced to comic relief and he looks fat, old and slow. Nothing like that absolutely brutal warehouse scene in BvS this go 'round.
-The comedy often fell flat and frankly just feels out of place in these gritty ass D.C. movies. I will say The Flash got a couple chuckles out of me and the Lasso of Truth on Aquaman and Superman carrying the apartment building to safety were ****ing hilarious.
-The ****ing Nightstalker? What the hell kind of bush league shit is that? It was a ****ing spider. Everyone knows Bat tech has to be bat-related! Batarangs, batmobile, batplane, anti-shark bat repellant. Gah!

Anyway, I'm excited to see where things go.

Assuming they don't blow it all up, the next JL film could be the Legion of Doom or Darkseid himself. I'm down for either one.

[mnchiefsguy]

Just got back from the late show.

Thought it was every bit as good as any Marvel Movie that does not have the word Guardians in the title.

The story was not the strongest, but it was just as good as Ragnarok, which no one seems to have an issue with. Villian was fine...good enough, and did not steal the show.

Thought the chemistry was fantastic. It had the funny. Batman did take a step back, but I thought it was a necessary step...and I love Batman, but in this case it was the right call to have him take a step back so the others could shine.

Really liked Aquaman--fresh take on the character and I am officially excited for the solo movie. With the right kind of marketing Aquaman could be DC's Iron Man-- a second tier comic book hero that is a great fit on the silver screen.

Hopefully Warner re-considers and keeps the series going. I think it is moving in the right direction. Word of Mouth seems good on this, so I think it will have some legs and drop off less than BVS.

[Tribal Warfare]

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Pretty cool he adopted the chiefs ...no idea why he's a fan. Him and Joe Mangenilo were at the playoffs game last year.
He's always wearing a chiefs hat too

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Pretty cool he adopted the chiefs ...no idea why he's a fan. Him and Joe Mangenilo were at the playoffs game last year.
He's always wearing a chiefs hat too

While you're looking at the Chiefs logo on his shirt, I'm staring at the huge f@#$ing dog next to him. That thing is massive!

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Pretty cool he adopted the chiefs ...no idea why he's a fan. Him and Joe Mangenilo were at the playoffs game last year.
He's always wearing a chiefs hat too

He's probably buddies with Rob Riggle and Paul Rudd too.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

He's probably buddies with Rob Riggle and Paul Rudd too.

Probably, I see he even follows the chiefs on Instagram

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Pretty cool he adopted the chiefs ...no idea why he's a fan. Him and Joe Mangenilo were at the playoffs game last year.
He's always wearing a chiefs hat too

he grew up in the KC area. Overland Park area.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

he grew up in the KC area. Overland Park area.

Figured it was something like that. Nobody roots for the Chiefs by choice.