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Old 03-13-2017, 01:18 PM  
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:46 PM   #31
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:46 PM   #32
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A young devito type player?

And yeah, I think we all collectively overrated the **** out of Poe.
I think we are overating 2013-14 poe... He was a monster. But as soon as his back gave out, he was a time bomb. Got 5 good years out of a 1st rnder.... I'll take it. Via con dios, Piggy.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:47 PM   #33
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I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe. The truth is, as DJLN eluded to, Poe is coasting on name value right now. This isn't like Sean Smith last year where the guy was good as he left. Poe hasn't been very good the past two years at all, a lot of it probably due to the back.

I hope to see Sutton use a steady rotation up front with Jones, Bailey, Logan, Howard and RNR. Don't overload those big guys. Keep them fresh all season and healthy.
Seems like Poe only had 1 good game that was the SNF @Denver then he hurt his back that game and didn't do shit the rest of the year. The excuse for him was he was always getting double teamed and none of us wanted to admit the truth,
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:47 PM   #34
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I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe. The truth is, as DJLN eluded to, Poe is coasting on name value right now. This isn't like Sean Smith last year where the guy was good as he left. Poe hasn't been very good the past two years at all, a lot of it probably due to the back.

I hope to see Sutton use a steady rotation up front with Jones, Bailey, Logan, Howard and RNR. Don't overload those big guys. Keep them fresh all season and healthy.
still waiting on Sutton to rotate

Sutton played the guy with a bad back about 75% of the plays iirc I think there were only 3 or 4 Dline that played more than Poe and they were all DE and ROLB type guys.

If Poe wasn't playing well then why did Sutton leave him out there constantly?
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:49 PM   #35
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:51 PM   #36
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still waiting on Sutton to rotate

Sutton played the guy with a bad back about 75% of the plays iirc I think there were only 3 or 4 Dline that played more than Poe and they were all DE and ROLB type guys.

If Poe wasn't playing well then why did Sutton leave him out there constantly?
There at the end last year we were playing guys like Reyes and Jenkins quite a bit. So, he was rotating, but will he keep it up when the starters are back?

We need to preserve Jones. He can be good for a long time if they don't play him a 1000 snaps a season.
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I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe.
He is, but only because Poe was absolutely terrible last year.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:51 PM   #39
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I love this signing. Run defense is already improved.

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9. Bennie Logan, NT
Logan is a true nose tackle, effectively limiting him to being a two-down player, which in today’s NFL has never been less valuable in terms of contract dollars. He has the ability though to make a major impact on those two downs if a team is willing to embrace the type of player he is. This past season he was a poor fit for Philadelphia’s new, aggressive, one-gap defensive front, but the year before he notched 45 defensive stops, fourth in the league among all interior defenders despite playing just 597 snaps in total. Only Damon Harrison had a better run-stop percentage than Logan’s 14.8 percent, a figure that would also have been second to Harrison this season. Embrace the two-gapping, run-stuffing ability and you could transform your run defense for pennies on the dollar.

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Remember when this board blew it's load over signing Vance Walker?
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:53 PM   #41
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There's your NT.
Yup. He played really well in 14/15 too. Last year he kind of fell off in that 4-3.
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nice read, staylor. Yes, a fan of this signing. Very good rotational depth, and could be a decent inside starter, if something goes wrong with Howard.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:54 PM   #43
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There at the end last year we were playing guys like Reyes and Jenkins quite a bit. So, he was rotating, but will he keep it up when the starters are back?
That's because everyone Sutton rode into the ground dropped like flies due to injuries and we got crushed in the run game because we were playing turds on the line off the street.

Sutton is going to get mileage out of Chris Jones, 1000 snaps easy this year lol.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:54 PM   #44
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Seems like Poe only had 1 good game that was the SNF @Denver then he hurt his back that game and didn't do shit the rest of the year. The excuse for him was he was always getting double teamed and none of us wanted to admit the truth,
It was the occasional flash that did it to us.

The play he made in the Houston playoff game where he just instantaneously changed direction, blew through the middle and caused a pick. There was the clip in the Bronco's game (IIRC) where he and Bailey literally held the entire 5-man line of the Broncos to a standstill when Sutton tried some crazy 9-velcro kind of package.

On rare occasions you'd see a flash of the animal he was in 2013 but ultimately, you saw a pretty ineffective player more often than that.

It sucks, but as has been alluded to, Sutton (and Pioli) deserve a little blame here as well. That guy got ridden so hard and even when Dorsey came in and found some depth here and there, Sutton continued to flog Poe. We were screaming for help for Poe for several years and in the end, the cavalry appeared to just arrive too late.

But hey, take Poe away from Sutton and perhaps he'll consider responsible line rotations going forward. That would be a welcome respite.
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