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Old 09-20-2014, 12:44 AM  
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Late night bullshit: Drafting a passrusher in the first next year.

Let's face some serious facts that need to be faced going forward:

1. Alex Smith is The Guy, and the Chiefs will not draft QB in the 1st round.

2. The Chiefs are going to cut Tamba Hali. He costs too much against the cap in a year the Chiefs need to make room for Houston.

3. Dee Ford has not looked good, and while he can develop into a nice player eventually, he's not getting the snaps to do that right now.

Given these facts, why should we dismiss out of hand that the Chiefs wouldn't draft another passrusher in next year's 1st?

The team must remain traumatized by last year's experience of having zero depth at the position -- drafting someone like Randy Gregory and bringing Dee off the bench (and starting him if someone goes down) may not be the best use of resources of 2014's 1st rounder, but it would provide the team key depth and provide it a hellacious passrush with Houston and somebody like Gregory, with someone like Ford spelling either passrusher.

I think it's also possible the Chiefs draft a DE next year in the first, as I anticipate they will let Allen Bailey walk, and cut Mike DeVito -- but Kevin Vickerson is anybody's guess. I don't think they go offensive line -- I bet they bring Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen, and Donald Stephenson back, although Allen and Stephenson would likely be in their last years in KC.

Playmaker is the most obvious go-to in this draft, but it's not clear where the fits are at CB or S. The best corner in this draft is 5'9" and a hair slower than Dorsey likes them. It's not clear yet if there are any potentially dominant safety talents.

WR is the most obvious place to go, and Sammie Coates is as obvious a John Dorsey pick as there is in this draft -- all measurables, all project. Amari Cooper is more steady, but he's not outstanding in any phase of the game that I've detected except perhaps route-running -- and Alabama players do horribly in the NFL. That leaves you with Stephon Diggs.

At this point, I'd project Coates as a future Chief if we land a top ten pick, but a passrusher or down lineman would not surprise me.
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Old 09-20-2014, 06:25 AM   #16
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We need a ****ing receiver like nobodies business.
This. Imagine if Baldwin had turned out how much better our offense would be
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Old 09-20-2014, 06:39 AM   #17
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You can never have too many pass rushers
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-20-2014, 06:56 AM   #18
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We need a ****ing receiver like nobodies business.
This.

Pick a ****ing playmaker in the first. Get a stud WR or TE. If you can't trade down and get a top end FS or CB...
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:02 AM   #19
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I see Hali taking a pay-cut to stick around another yr or two. Either way, I don't expect to see a rush LB being the 1st rd pick. Ford will develop well.. just slowly, as Hali did.

The first 4 rounds should be dedicated to WR, OL, DE, and S.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:16 AM   #20
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Ford will develop well.. just slowly, as Hali did.
Hali had 7 sacks his first year.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:18 AM   #21
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Hali is going to chase a ring as he should. He made his money and he deserves to go to a team that competes for a playoff spot year in and year out. And that sure isnt the Chiefs
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:18 AM   #22
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Hali had 7 sacks his first year.
IIRC, he had 8.

These Niner dipshits should probably stick to what they actually know - Alex Smith's nutsack.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:23 AM   #23
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IIRC, he had 8.

These Niner dipshits should probably stick to what they actually know - Alex Smith's nutsack.
Back out of prison again? how was it? That anus nice and loose? We missed you... where's your girl, htismage? Nudge him awake, will you? Have to ask him something.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:23 AM   #24
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Im old enough to remember when Chiefs fans hated the Hali pick.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:26 AM   #25
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Im old enough to remember Chiefs fan hating Derrick Johnson over Aaron Rodgers lol


that went on for years until DJ went from bust to best all around player on the defense
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:28 AM   #26
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Im old enough to remember Chiefs fan hating Derrick Johnson over Aaron Rodgers lol


that went on for years until DJ went from bust to best all around player on the defense
Heheh, DJ turned into a fine player, but it was still the wrong pick.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:30 AM   #27
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You are absolutely right. Good pass rushers are always critical. Good positional value for a first rounder. But now that Cp only cares about drafting for need, we should draft somebody safe instead.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:30 AM   #28
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If the Chiefs have to tag Houston, they'll draft an OLB.

If they get a contract done, they'll draft a safety as insurance for Berry.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:31 AM   #29
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Heheh, DJ turned into a fine player, but it was still the wrong pick.
I remember that crazy draft slide where Rodgers kept falling and people went nuts.

I havent seen a player slide like that since and no Geno Smith does not count
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