Chiefs Let's talk about the goddamn Bills. Again. For ****'s sake. - Page 10

Direckshun · 11-22-2015, 10:31 PM

Well the Bills are doing their thing once again of looking somewhat competent and making everybody think "are they for real this time?"

The answer is no. No they are not for real.

Look at their wins. All their wins have been against unimpressive dipshits. Two of their five wins have been against the ****ing Dolphins, an organization so haywire I'm pretty sure they just let Tannehill improvise instead of having a coach call plays. They had a legit win last week against the Jets, but the Jets have Fitzpatrick under center and the only reason a teammate hasn't broken his jaw yet is because his beard conceals it so well.

Last year, the Bills boasted a terrifying defense with an offense that was being held together by shoestrings with Kyle ****ing Orton under center.

This year, the Bills boast pretty much the same defense playing comprehensively worse under Rex "defensive genius" Ryan while sporting a sporatically explosive offense under The Hokey That Time Forgot: Tyron Taylor. Taylor is your typical quarterback from Virginia Tech: super athletic with roughly no idea how to play football in the NFL. His stats are surprisingly nice, which we'll get to in a moment, but watch him tomorrow on MNF against a real NFL coaching staff. He's going to evaporate once defenses figure out which palm he scribbled his playcalls onto.

That being said, as Chiefs fans during the Alex Smith era know, mediocre quarterbacks somehow confound NFL masterminds when they have even the slightest bit of athleticism. Expect the Chiefs to employ a spy in the form of Husain Abdullah because Taylor is legitimately lethal when he gets a seam to burst through.

As for his arm, the Bills have done a solid job surrounding him with good talent, and he's managed to complete -- get this -- 70% of his passes. 70%. I make my wife orgasm with less frequency, and I'm a goddamn stud. Well done, Tyrod. I literally have no idea how you do it.

Like I was saying moments ago, the Bills have done a really good job surrounding him with weapons. Sammy Watkins' stats aren't that great this year, as he's struggled waiting for Taylor to learn how to quarterback and EJ Manuel piss away every ounce of goodwill the city of Buffalo has mistakenly sheltered him with. Watkins still has great hands, though, and top-notch elite athleticism that, at one point, made him an elite pairing with Percy Harvin. Harvin has gone the way of Sanders Commings, however, and now the dependable Robert Woods mans the #2 slot. While Sammy Watkins is the tall, athletic dynamo that Sean Smith specializes in shutting down, Woods is the kind of shifty, speedy route-runner that has given Peters fits this year.

The Bills also have a Wes Welker type in Chris Hogan, and those types always seem to give the Chiefs fits on 3rd downs. After that, they have one-dimensional speedsters in Marquis Goodwin and Denarious Moore.

The most productive receiver the Bills have this year, however, is Charles Clay, who is going to have a very long afternoon in Arrowhead. Nobody limits TE production like the Chiefs, who boast not one but three TE shutdowns in Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Husain Abdullah. Clay is a big security blanket for Tyrod Taylor, and erasing him from the equation might screw with Taylor's wiring enough to force mistakes. Their passing game does not worry me, absent Bob Sutton forgetting to spy on Taylor's scrambling ability.

The Bills' run game is stout, though. LeSean McCoy is one of the league's best rushers when he's on, with the ability to seemingly teleport from one part of the line to another when the DL takes his hole away. Containing LeSean McCoy is a true team effort -- it requires hard work not just at the point of attack, but on the backside contain and at the second level, where Shady is one of the league's shiftiest. Do. Not. Sleep. On. McCoy. Their #2 RB is a huge truck of a running back in the gargantuan Karlos Williams, a guy who looks like Allen Bailey in a RB's body despite the fact that he's "only" 6'2", 230 lbs. He's averaging about 6 yards a clip. The Bills can pound the rock when they need to.

Which the Chiefs will need to be ready for. They've already got the league's #4 run defense, but this is a killer pair of RBs (along with a very good scrambler) and one of the few offensive lines in the league that's actually very good. Cordy Glenn at RT and Seantrel Henderson at RT are one of the league's best young bookends. Eric Wood is a sturdy center, and Richie Incognito will break down your DL with racist jokes. Louisville's John Miller is a powerful RG. Unlike last year's run game, which depended on a guy named ****ing Boobie, this year's Bills will plow you over if you don't watch your shit. Also, our passrush was totally negated last year by this line.

On the defensive side of the ball... I don't know, maybe you guys can help me out. I can't figure out why a team with almost the exact same personnel from last year's defense is underperforming so much. They're not bad... They're just not the world beaters that we're used to (I'm only using that phrase once this week).

Marcell Dareus is possibly the NFL's best defensive tackle. He's got Kyle Williams next to him, with Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams off the edge. Why is this not the best defensive line in football? Their sack numbers are very low, and other than Dareus, I don't see them on film and go "wow" like I did last year. This is still a shit ton of talent, though.

I really like Manny Lawson, but I struggle to be terribly worried about anybody else in their linebacking corps. Preston Brown is an nonathletic tackle-machine and Nigel Bradham sounds like a gay Bond villain. They better hope they work their ass off because this is the level of the defense Alex Smith spends all his time passing towards.

Smith definitely won't be chucking it to the WRs this week. Hell Maclin might as well take this week off because Stephen Gilmore is an excellent corner with a complete game. Not only is he physical and energetic, he's also really good in run support. Meanwhile, the Bills have the NFL's OTHER contestant for NFL Rookie of the Year in Ronald Darby, Florida State's slightly undersized CB who is just a pisspounding firecracker. The Bills also boast a good-not-great safety corps in Aaron Williams, Corey Graham, Bacarri Rambo, and Duke Williams. Going deep will be very challenging, and we're probably looking at another game of dumpoffs and checkdowns by Smith.

Honestly, given how good that secondary is, the game might simply be decided by the Chiefs figuring out what exactly they've got in Spencer Ware. Ware showed an elusiveness and a power that is every bit as eye-opening by a Kansas City backup RB we've seen since Charles first started getting work in 2009. Charcandrick West is a good role-player, but he was always meant to be a 3rd down change-of-pace guy. I'm calling it now: I think Spencer Ware is going to be the guy John Dorsey thought he was getting in Knile Davis.

One thing's for sure, this is the best test our resurgent offensive line has seen. Fisher and gang have to bring every ounce of edge they brought to Denver because this is a playoff game. We will likely be competing with the Bills for a playoff spot and every yard in this game will be extremely hard to earn.

I think it will be a very low-scoring affair, and unless the Chiefs sleep on Tyrod Taylor (which I don't think they will), they should have enough firepower on both sides of the ball to keep this one in hand.

Chiefs win, 16-13. But it may take us overtime to do so.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-23-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Gee, it's almost like it's a problem for a defense when their quarterback goes 5-25 36 yards and 4 INTs before getting benched in the second half.

WTF are you talking about?

Mr. Laz · 11-23-2015, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I only recall the one, where Rivers missed because he was running for his life. Even had he not missed, im not sure it's called back because he looked to have been right at the LoS when he threw it.

Peters was beaten several times and our pressure led to bad throws by Rivers which saved his ass.

ModSocks · 11-23-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Peters was beaten several times and our pressure led to bad throws by Rivers which saved his ass.

I don't recall those. Though i do recall a drop when Peters was beat.

Mr. Laz · 11-23-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't recall those. Though i do recall a drop when Peters was beat.

I'm not saying Peters sucks, he looks to be a stud corner in the making.

I just don't think our safeties give our corners as much help as other teams do.

Peters doesn't seem as comfortable playing off

**rockymtnchief** · 11-23-2015, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How can a man pretend to climax? You either empty your nuts or you don't.

Pull out, spit on their back and fall asleep.

Strongside · 11-23-2015, 06:44 PM

They've pulled the precipitation from the forecast, but the high is only 42. I'll have to be sure and get half-lit before I get into the stadium...I'll also take in some kind of apple bourbon or something to keep warm. I plan on being rowdy af on Sunday. Hopefully no one has sold their tickets to kids near my seats. Usually it's a fun crowd all around us.

Toby Waller · 11-23-2015, 06:51 PM

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The answer is no. No they are not for real.

the Chiefs beat up the Chargers and you claim dominance over a team who barely lost to the Patriots the first time and have a better defense.
beating a team in your division twice expresses dominance,not sub par...ness.

I think Bills lose tonight but I will pick them to beat KC

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-23-2015, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

We're going to get our ****ing asses kicked.

Don't start your shit again !

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-23-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts

the Chiefs beat up the Chargers and you claim dominance over a team who barely lost to the Patriots the first time and have a better defense.
beating a team in your division twice expresses dominance,not sub par...ness.

I think Bills lose tonight but I will pick them to beat KC

The first Bills-Pats game was not close. Don't be a fool. They came back and made it 'interesting' in garbage time on the box score. It was pretty well domination by the Patriots.

I hate this narrative that just because you beat a bad team, the win means less. What did you want the Chiefs to do, win by 40 instead of 30?

They've done what they are suppose to do and if I were the Bills right now I wouldn't feel too good about playing this defense on the road, a defense playing probably as good of football as we've seen in the Reid era. (And many years before it)

**Buzz** · 11-23-2015, 07:08 PM

Never mind.

Toby Waller · 11-23-2015, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The first Bills-Pats game was not close. Don't be a fool. They came back and made it 'interesting' in garbage time on the box score. It was pretty well domination by the Patriots.

I hate this narrative that just because you beat a bad team, the win means less. What did you want the Chiefs to do, win by 40 instead of 30?

They've done what they are suppose to do and if I were the Bills right now I wouldn't feel too good about playing this defense on the road, a defense playing probably as good of football as we've seen in the Reid era. (And many years before it)

I dont disagree generally but the so called narrative comes out true a lot.
the win doesnt mean less,it just means you arent as good.
But considering the parity era,its like swinging a pendulum half the time anyway. I'll swing the pendulum in the Bills favor next week

-King- · 11-23-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

They've pulled the precipitation from the forecast, but the high is only 42. I'll have to be sure and get half-lit before I get into the stadium...I'll also take in some kind of apple bourbon or something to keep warm. I plan on being rowdy af on Sunday. Hopefully no one has sold their tickets to kids near my seats. Usually it's a fun crowd all around us.

I'll be at the game too. Was hoping my Berry jersey would get here by game time but with the holiday, I doubt it will. Oh well. I'll be loud too.

Mother****erJones · 11-23-2015, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts

I dont disagree generally but the so called narrative comes out true a lot.
the win doesnt mean less,it just means you arent as good.
But considering the parity era,its like swinging a pendulum half the time anyway. I'll swing the pendulum in the Bills favor next week

Riiiight...coming off a highly emotional game on a short week on the road. Man you're a colossal dumbass

Toby Waller · 11-23-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Riiiight...coming off a highly emotional game on a short week on the road. Man you're a colossal dumbass

so you are saying you assume they/KC win. New England/Foxboro isnt that far from Buffalo.

Colossal dumb ass? We're both on a Chiefs site for Christ sake

Mother****erJones · 11-23-2015, 08:07 PM

Everyone is discrediting this defense for their performance. Why watch? Just quit watching and posting then.

11-22-2015, 10:31 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4293447	Let's talk about the goddamn Bills. Again. For 's sake. Well the Bills are doing their thing once again of looking somewhat competent and making everybody think "are they for real this time?" The answer is no. No they are not for real. Look at their wins. All their wins have been against unimpressive dipshits. Two of their five wins have been against the ***ing Dolphins, an organization so haywire I'm pretty sure they just let Tannehill improvise instead of having a coach call plays. They had a legit win last week against the Jets, but the Jets have Fitzpatrick under center and the only reason a teammate hasn't broken his* jaw yet is because his beard conceals it so well. Last year, the Bills boasted a terrifying defense with an offense that was being held together by shoestrings with Kyle **ing Orton under center. This year, the Bills boast pretty much the same defense playing comprehensively worse under Rex "defensive genius" Ryan while sporting a sporatically explosive offense under The Hokey That Time Forgot: Tyron Taylor. Taylor is your typical quarterback from Virginia Tech: super athletic with roughly no idea how to play football in the NFL. His stats are surprisingly nice, which we'll get to in a moment, but watch him tomorrow on MNF against a real NFL coaching staff. He's going to evaporate once defenses figure out which palm he scribbled his playcalls onto. That being said, as Chiefs fans during the Alex Smith era know, mediocre quarterbacks somehow confound NFL masterminds when they have even the slightest bit of athleticism. Expect the Chiefs to employ a spy in the form of Husain Abdullah because Taylor is legitimately lethal when he gets a seam to burst through. As for his arm, the Bills have done a solid job surrounding him with good talent, and he's managed to complete -- get this -- 70% of his passes. 70%. I make my wife orgasm with less frequency, and I'm a goddamn stud. Well done, Tyrod. I literally have no idea how you do it. Like I was saying moments ago, the Bills have done a really good job surrounding him with weapons. Sammy Watkins' stats aren't that great this year, as he's struggled waiting for Taylor to learn how to quarterback and EJ Manuel piss away every ounce of goodwill the city of Buffalo has mistakenly sheltered him with. Watkins still has great hands, though, and top-notch elite athleticism that, at one point, made him an elite pairing with Percy Harvin. Harvin has gone the way of Sanders Commings, however, and now the dependable Robert Woods mans the #2 slot. While Sammy Watkins is the tall, athletic dynamo that Sean Smith specializes in shutting down, Woods is the kind of shifty, speedy route-runner that has given Peters fits this year. The Bills also have a Wes Welker type in Chris Hogan, and those types always seem to give the Chiefs fits on 3rd downs. After that, they have one-dimensional speedsters in Marquis Goodwin and Denarious Moore. The most productive receiver the Bills have this year, however, is Charles Clay, who is going to have a very long afternoon in Arrowhead. Nobody limits TE production like the Chiefs, who boast not one but three TE shutdowns in Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Husain Abdullah. Clay is a big security blanket for Tyrod Taylor, and erasing him from the equation might screw with Taylor's wiring enough to force mistakes. Their passing game does not worry me, absent Bob Sutton forgetting to spy on Taylor's scrambling ability. The Bills' run game is stout, though. LeSean McCoy is one of the league's best rushers when he's on, with the ability to seemingly teleport from one part of the line to another when the DL takes his hole away. Containing LeSean McCoy is a true team effort -- it requires hard work not just at the point of attack, but on the backside contain and at the second level, where Shady is one of the league's shiftiest. Do. Not. Sleep. On. McCoy. Their #2 RB is a huge truck of a running back in the gargantuan Karlos Williams, a guy who looks like Allen Bailey in a RB's body despite the fact that he's "only" 6'2", 230 lbs. He's averaging about 6 yards a clip. The Bills can pound the rock when they need to. Which the Chiefs will need to be ready for. They've already got the league's #4 run defense, but this is a killer pair of RBs (along with a very good scrambler) and one of the few offensive lines in the league that's actually very good. Cordy Glenn at RT and Seantrel Henderson at RT are one of the league's best young bookends. Eric Wood is a sturdy center, and Richie Incognito will break down your DL with racist jokes. Louisville's John Miller is a powerful RG. Unlike last year's run game, which depended on a guy named ing Boobie, this year's Bills will plow you over if you don't watch your shit. Also, our passrush was totally negated last year by this line. On the defensive side of the ball... I don't know, maybe you guys can help me out. I can't figure out why a team with almost the exact same personnel from last year's defense is underperforming so much. They're not bad... They're just not the world beaters that we're used to (I'm only using that phrase once this week). Marcell Dareus is possibly the NFL's best defensive tackle. He's got Kyle Williams next to him, with Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams off the edge. Why is this not the best defensive line in football? Their sack numbers are very low, and other than Dareus, I don't see them on film and go "wow" like I did last year. This is still a shit ton of talent, though. I really like Manny Lawson, but I struggle to be terribly worried about anybody else in their linebacking corps. Preston Brown is an nonathletic tackle-machine and Nigel Bradham sounds like a gay Bond villain. They better hope they work their ass off because this is the level of the defense Alex Smith spends all his time passing towards. Smith definitely won't be chucking it to the WRs this week. Hell Maclin might as well take this week off because Stephen Gilmore is an excellent corner with a complete game. Not only is he physical and energetic, he's also really good in run support. Meanwhile, the Bills have the NFL's OTHER contestant for NFL Rookie of the Year in Ronald Darby, Florida State's slightly undersized CB who is just a pisspounding firecracker. The Bills also boast a good-not-great safety corps in Aaron Williams, Corey Graham, Bacarri Rambo, and Duke Williams. Going deep will be very challenging, and we're probably looking at another game of dumpoffs and checkdowns by Smith. Honestly, given how good that secondary is, the game might simply be decided by the Chiefs figuring out what exactly they've got in Spencer Ware. Ware showed an elusiveness and a power that is every bit as eye-opening by a Kansas City backup RB we've seen since Charles first started getting work in 2009. Charcandrick West is a good role-player, but he was always meant to be a 3rd down change-of-pace guy. I'm calling it now: I think Spencer Ware is going to be the guy John Dorsey thought he was getting in Knile Davis. One thing's for sure, this is the best test our resurgent offensive line has seen. Fisher and gang have to bring every ounce of edge they brought to Denver because this is a playoff game**. We will likely be competing with the Bills for a playoff spot and every yard in this game will be extremely hard to earn. I think it will be a very low-scoring affair, and unless the Chiefs sleep on Tyrod Taylor (which I don't think they will), they should have enough firepower on both sides of the ball to keep this one in hand. Chiefs win, 16-13. But it may take us overtime to do so.
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