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Old 04-02-2017, 06:31 PM  
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Anybody see Lexi Thompson get totally screwed by the LPGA today?

I was watching this on live TV a few minutes ago. This is bullshit. They've got to change this bullshit rule.


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Leader Lexi Thompson hit with 4-stroke penalty a day later at ANA Inspiration

Cameras were rolling as then-leader Lexi Thompson was informed by a rules official that she be assessed a 4-stroke penalty Sunday during the final round of the LPGA Tour’s ANA Inspiration.

A television viewer watching a delayed version of Saturday’s third round alerted tournament officials that Thompson had placed her ball in a different spot than where she marked it before putting on the No. 17 green. That led to a retrospective 2-stroke penalty in addition to a 2-stroke penalty for signing for the wrong score after the third round.

Thompson held a 2-shot lead at 16 under when she was informed of the penalty from a day earlier while walking to the No. 14 green and suddenly trailed by two at 12 under.

She still has a chance to win the tournament despite this bullshit. She birdied the next hole (even though she was fighting back tears) and Suzanne Peterson bogied it. So in about 5 minutes she went from leading by 2, to trailing by 2, to tied for the lead.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:38 AM   #76
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:47 AM   #77
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This sets a rather dangerous precedent for golf in general. What's to stop people from going over other past golf tournaments and finding little mistakes like this? That could be quite a can of worms....
Once a tournament is over, no further adjustments can be made. So, if this loser had been watching Sunday's round today and seen this, there would have been no retroactive penalty. Yet another reason this is ****ed up.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:56 AM   #78
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The point is that she didn't knowingly break the rules. Which means she didn't knowingly turn in an incorrect score card. I understand that the technicalities make this a correct decision. But that doesn't mean it's reasonable. The prevailing public view is that she got screwed over by rules and the way it was enforced.
I disagree that she didn't knowingly break the rules. The rules of the golf tourney are the responsibility of each contestant. Maybe the enforcement wasn't correct and I am sure the LPGA is discussing that today, but whether the ruling came down yesterday or a week from now, it doesn't chang ethe fact that she broke the rules.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:57 AM   #79
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If it had been noted by an official and not some scrub at home, it would have been a righteous penalty. As is, it's like assessing a penalty a quarter after the infraction and taking points off the board in a football game.
This isn't football. Why apply the same approach to football that you apply to golf?
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:59 AM   #80
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so I'm sure you've never offered advice to another person on the course?
I have as a caddie and in friendly practice rounds, but never in a tournament. It's against the rules in single stroke play, but in a two-man event, it is allowed between me and my playing partner.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:00 PM   #81
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This sets a rather dangerous precedent for golf in general. What's to stop people from going over other past golf tournaments and finding little mistakes like this? That could be quite a can of worms....
It's been going on since golf has been a mainstream televised event. The RNA and USGA take this sort of thing seriously. There is nothing wrong with feeling sympathy for Anderson, but she did break the rules. I can see it.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:02 PM   #82
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:05 PM   #83
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Once a tournament is over, no further adjustments can be made. So, if this loser had been watching Sunday's round today and seen this, there would have been no retroactive penalty. Yet another reason this is ****ed up.
I didn't realize that. But yeah, still ****ed up. Sounds like lots of improvement could be made regarding the enforcement of things like this.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:08 PM   #84
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Who would ever play golf if what she did is considered cheating? What a stupid rule.
Wild ass guess: Millions?

I mean, unless a bunch of folks are going to quit playing golf over this.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:11 PM   #85
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:22 PM   #86
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THIS! This is exactly what I said last night.

Cheating happens in every sport. Bad calls happen in every sport. But once the play is over - it's fricking over! If no official said anything after that hole was over, too bad.

I can see penalizing/disqualifying for an incorrect scorecard. But if you had no clue your score was incorrect, it's not your fault.

This whole thing is like me calling in today about a play I saw where Tom Brady stepped out of bounds during the Super Bowl and it wasn't called. Let's just change the outcome.

So stupid.
What golf official is watching for infractions? Golf has always been about policing yourself. The officials are there to be called on to interpret the rules its still the golfers responsibility to call the penalty basically. This has happened time and again through the years where the golfer has remembered an infraction long after the round was over and called it out. These golfers know how to mark and re-spot the ball accurately and with HDTV so does the audience. Regardless of how minutely she misplaced it its still improving your lie a penalty. Gary Player made a living doing this and I remember Tom Watson calling him out on it. Player was never satisfied where his ball lied.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:23 PM   #87
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Wild ass guess: Millions?

I mean, unless a bunch of folks are going to quit playing golf over this.
I play league golf, my buddies and I were discussing this last night. We've all had this type of thing happen. It's a part of the game.
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I play league golf, my buddies and I were discussing this last night. We've all had this type of thing happen. It's a part of the game.
You've all had someone watch your round the next day while sitting on their couch call in the league organizer saying your ball was a fraction of an inch different when viewed under slow motion?

Interesting if true.

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Old 04-03-2017, 12:33 PM   #89
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You've all had someone watch your round the next day while sitting on their couch call in the league organizer saying your ball was a fraction of an inch different when viewed under slow motion?

Interesting if true.

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No, but that doesn't matter. If I break a rule in the tournament, my fellow competitors will take notice and a discussion ensues. Based on that discussion if the group (which includes a Marshall) determines that I did break the rule, then I am subject and accepting of the penalty. It's my fault for breaking the rule. Why are you hung up on how the cheating was discovered?

Mine was that I shot a great round in the Tourney, but my group did not finish within 15 minutes of the group in front of us, so each member in my group incurred a stroke penalty for slow play. One of my buddies lifted his ball to check if it was his, and did not replace the ball properly and got DQ'ed from the club championship.
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is that right? I didn't have the energy to argue with him at the time and never really followed up. but every time I hear him to this day talking about his golf score, I think to myself "Bullshit". lol
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