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Old 04-02-2017, 06:31 PM  
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Anybody see Lexi Thompson get totally screwed by the LPGA today?

I was watching this on live TV a few minutes ago. This is bullshit. They've got to change this bullshit rule.


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Leader Lexi Thompson hit with 4-stroke penalty a day later at ANA Inspiration

Cameras were rolling as then-leader Lexi Thompson was informed by a rules official that she be assessed a 4-stroke penalty Sunday during the final round of the LPGA Tour’s ANA Inspiration.

A television viewer watching a delayed version of Saturday’s third round alerted tournament officials that Thompson had placed her ball in a different spot than where she marked it before putting on the No. 17 green. That led to a retrospective 2-stroke penalty in addition to a 2-stroke penalty for signing for the wrong score after the third round.

Thompson held a 2-shot lead at 16 under when she was informed of the penalty from a day earlier while walking to the No. 14 green and suddenly trailed by two at 12 under.

She still has a chance to win the tournament despite this bullshit. She birdied the next hole (even though she was fighting back tears) and Suzanne Peterson bogied it. So in about 5 minutes she went from leading by 2, to trailing by 2, to tied for the lead.
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Old 04-03-2017, 08:49 AM   #46
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And does anyone really think she did that to give herself some tactical advantage with the putt, or was the 1/8th of an inch movement just a mistake?
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Old 04-03-2017, 08:51 AM   #47
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You watch women's golf, so you must sleep well during the afternoon.


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Old 04-03-2017, 09:27 AM   #48
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And does anyone really think she did that to give herself some tactical advantage with the putt, or was the 1/8th of an inch movement just a mistake?
Saw somewhere that she's one of those idiots who has to line up the logo for every putt. Probably just ****ed it up not thinking about it. I understand 2-strokes for the action, but the 2-stroke scorecard penalty is dumb as ****.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:34 AM   #49
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Bullshit. She didn't Judge Smails the ball and boot it out of the rough with her foot, she set it down literally a fraction of an inch from where she picked it up.
Both situations you describe are a violation of the rules of golf.

This is the USGA rule 20-3 on the subject:

"If a ball to be replaced is placed other than on the spot from which it was lifted or moved and the error is not corrected as provided in Rule 20-6, the player incurs the general penalty, loss of hole in match play or two strokes in stroke play, for a breach of the applicable Rule."
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:36 AM   #50
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And does anyone really think she did that to give herself some tactical advantage with the putt, or was the 1/8th of an inch movement just a mistake?
Only she could answer that. I have marked thousands of golf balls on greens, and you know if you are improving yourself when you place the ball.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:40 AM   #51
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Saw somewhere that she's one of those idiots who has to line up the logo for every putt. Probably just ****ed it up not thinking about it. I understand 2-strokes for the action, but the 2-stroke scorecard penalty is dumb as ****.
Again, it's the rules. Technically she should have been disqualified. The LPGA might approach it different, but in Golf tournament play, she would have been DQ'ed.

6-6. Scoring in Stroke Play

a. Recording Scores
After each hole the marker should check the score with the competitor and record it. On completion of the round the marker must sign the score card and hand it to the competitor. If more than one marker records the scores, each must sign for the part for which he is responsible.

b. Signing and Returning Score Card
After completion of the round, the competitor should check his score for each hole and settle any doubtful points with the Committee. He must ensure that the marker or markers have signed the score card, sign the score card himself and return it to the Committee as soon as possible.

Penalty for Breach of Rule 6-6b:

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c. Alteration of Score Card
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d. Wrong Score for Hole
The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:42 AM   #52
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Only she could answer that. I have marked thousands of golf balls on greens, and you know if you are improving yourself when you place the ball.
Here's the crux of it to me. Golf is supposed to be self regulated. She didn't see a change in spot. Hell, I can't tell even in slow motion. So why the hell does some hacker sitting on a couch get to call it the next day.
I've marked thousands of balls as well. Is it likely that I've been off a few hundredths an inch in placing the ball back? Duh

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Old 04-03-2017, 10:42 AM   #53
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:43 AM   #54
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Again, it's the rules. Technically she should have been disqualified. The LPGA might approach it different, but in Golf tournament play, she would have been DQ'ed.

6-6. Scoring in Stroke Play

a. Recording Scores
After each hole the marker should check the score with the competitor and record it. On completion of the round the marker must sign the score card and hand it to the competitor. If more than one marker records the scores, each must sign for the part for which he is responsible.

b. Signing and Returning Score Card
After completion of the round, the competitor should check his score for each hole and settle any doubtful points with the Committee. He must ensure that the marker or markers have signed the score card, sign the score card himself and return it to the Committee as soon as possible.

Penalty for Breach of Rule 6-6b:

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c. Alteration of Score Card
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d. Wrong Score for Hole
The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands.
I believe the rule was changed last year eliminating the DQ and assessing a 2 stroke penalty.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:45 AM   #55
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If the call had been made at the time, you could argue it was the proper call, even though it was completely inconsequential and had no effect on anything. It was a ****ing tap-in.

maybe, but it's the rules

But the LPGA waited until 24 hours later and THEN they penalized her because some douchebag television viewer sent a ****ing email to the LPGA to bitch about it. And on top of that they penalized her ANOTHER two strokes for signing a scorecard that was 100% correct when she signed it. THAT is where this situation became the ultimate cluster****.

She should have called a penalty on herself, but she missed it, mistakes happen. Because she failed to call the penalty on herself once she picked up her marker, she turned in an incorrect score card, which is another mistake.
This is a gentlemen's game and we expect ethical conduct. This isn't football.


She beat the field by 4 strokes in a major tournament and had the tournament stolen from her. The douchebag who sent the email undoubtedly shot a load in his pants over this. It's the highlight of his miserable life. Hopefully he will get AIDS and die.

She has no one but herself to blame, she cheated and got caught

The PGA and the LPGA should just state flat out that they won't respond to rules infractions "detected" by television viewers. That would solve this problem immediately.

Golf belongs to the public, not the PGA or LPGA. So, I don't have a problem with it.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:47 AM   #56
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I believe the rule was changed last year eliminating the DQ and assessing a 2 stroke penalty.
I am quoting USGA rules that are current. The PGS or LPGA might slight differ in their rules, but generally they are the same.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:47 AM   #57
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I think it's a stretch to say what seems to be an innocent mistake is "unethical" and "cheating".
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Only she could answer that. I have marked thousands of golf balls on greens, and you know if you are improving yourself when you place the ball.
You are defending the person who tattle so diligently that one would wonder if you are the tattler.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:49 AM   #59
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Here's the crux of it to me. Golf is supposed to be self regulated. She didn't see a change in spot. Hell, I can't tell even in slow motion. So why the hell does some hacker sitting on a couch get to call it the next day.
I've marked thousands of balls as well. Is it likely that I've been off a few hundredths an inch in placing the ball back? Duh

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Then place the ball better. When I looked at her placement it seemed clearly off to me. So I would disagree that it was way more than a fraction of an inch.
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You are defending the person who tattle so diligently that one would wonder if you are the tattler.
It doesn't matter who reported it. These are the rules of the game. It's funny to me that we have a person that was caught cheating and everybody want to poo poo the person that reported it. Remember that the next time you want to nail Jesus to the cross.
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