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Old 12-29-2012, 02:14 AM   #1
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I'm sure there is someone that can be found later in the draft to play safety.

Chiefs have 3 openings at QB and I'd rather not waste a pick on a Lindleyesque QB.
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:17 AM   #2
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I'm sure there is someone that can be found later in the draft to play safety.

Chiefs have 3 openings at QB and I'd rather not waste a pick on a Lindleyesque QB.
I'm sure there is. A Lindleyesque level safety.

Thomas is an All-American. McDonald and Rambo are very solid. It gets a little iffy after that. If either of those guys are there in the third, you definitely take them over a backup at QB. That's what free agency is for - getting a vet who knows the league and can fill in and do an okay job when required.

Wasting a third round pick on a backup is wasting a pick when you can get a starter at a position of need.

The Chiefs need starters at the following out of this draft:

1. Quarterback
2. Cornerback
3. Free Safety
4. Middle Linebacker

Everything else is filler/special teams/backup.

If they get the compensation for Carr and it's a third rounder as expected, they can get all of this by round three and all of them can be high level guys. (See above.)
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:56 AM   #3
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I guess I'm not worried about drafting a FS. Ya, we "need" a FS but its not some pressing need. The defense will be just fine and dandy with a quality #2 CB and a replacement for Belcher.

On the other hand we have an all time terrible offense because of 1 position. I'm not ready to throw all of the eggs in 1 basket. Geno wouldn't be the first highly touted QB to bust, if he were to bust, meanwhile a 2nd tier "Russell Wilson" could have been had but we passed on because we drafted Geno. Give me 2 QBs and a FA vet like Campbell or Moore. Won't see me crying over a S if we have a "problem" like the Redskins.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:59 AM   #4
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I guess I'm not worried about drafting a FS. Ya, we "need" a FS but its not some pressing need. The defense will be just fine and dandy with a quality #2 CB and a replacement for Belcher.
It wasn't so long ago that this entire board was going nuts because of guys like Mike Brown and Sabby Piscatelli. When Jon McGraw was our best safety.

It's a pass first league and the safety position has become substantially more important to the defense than it was in the past. And it's a hard position to fill. You've got to have guys stout enough to play 265 lbs. tight ends and fast enough to cover wideouts and fast running backs.

At this point, to get an NFL starting level safety, you've got to go earlier rather than later in the draft.

And while I really like Kendrick Lewis and his ball skills, I don't know if he's ever going to be healthy at this point. The shoulder is perpetually tweaked and it's kept him off the field the past two seasons. They need a new guy at free safety and between the three guys - Thomas, McDonald and Rambo, they can get a top flight prospect with that third round pick.

That has to be a better option than some guy who is going to end up holding a clipboard the majority of his career.

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On the other hand we have an all time terrible offense because of 1 position. I'm not ready to throw all of the eggs in 1 basket. Geno wouldn't be the first highly touted QB to bust, if he were to bust, meanwhile a 2nd tier "Russell Wilson" could have been had but we passed on because we drafted Geno. Give me 2 QBs and a FA vet like Campbell or Moore. Won't see me crying over a S if we have a "problem" like the Redskins.
They almost are forced to take two QB's in this draft. However, if you draft Geno (and there are no guarantees ever with any player) overall #1, you are going to play him. He'll struggle at times, just like the vast majority of rookie QB's, but you've got to play him. Get him accustomed to the speed of the game and let him grow. The only way you don't play him is if he gets injured. And if that's the case you want a solid veteran backup to come in and carry the team versus playing yet another rookie, whose also going to be forced to have those growing pains.

That's why, IMO, you take a late round flyer on a guy who has the potential versus starter level material.

A guy like Sorensen (who I have above) or Duke's Sean Renfree, who both have the size, arm and poise for the next level, but will need repetitions in an NFL practice setting to become acclimated to the speed.

I think that they should make an effort to pick up Jason Campbell, who's the best of the free agent QB's in 2013 and is markedly better than either Cassel or Quinn, and snag either Renfree or Sorensen in the 5/6 range.

Geno Smith
Jason Campbell
Brad Sorensen

is a pretty nice QB situation in 2013 after having to endure Cassel and Quinn in 2012.
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