Forced Vaccinations are on the way.

[BIG_DADDY]

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

[007]

Originally Posted by Silock

Holy damn!

You can only imagine the look on my face when my wife came to me to ask if I had ever gotten chicken pox. I asked her why and she said one of the kids that was in our home 2 days earlier came down with it because they were not vaccinated.

First words out of my mouth

son of a bitch I'm screwed.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

People have rights in this country. There is a right to refuse medical treatment. It also violates medical ethics to force any. Just a reminder to the health fascists.

You don't have the "right" to risk the lives of others. You don't get to let your "freedom" take away the freedom of others.

[BeeHo]

April 21, 2015 - Journal of the American Medical Association - one of the highest regarded medical journals in our country

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....icleid=2275444

Results Of 95 727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P < .001). MMR vaccination rates (≥1 dose) were 84% (n = 78 564) at age 2 years and 92% (n = 86 063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n = 1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n = 1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P = .22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P = .052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P = .50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P = .55).

Conclusions and Relevance In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

[Mojo Rising]

Big Daddy - Hope to catch up with you at sushi in San Carlos next month.

It seems that some people do not want their kids to hang out with un-vaccinated kids. They are free to choose too.

Maybe you don't want to hang out with those people.

Is there a large enough community of people that think like you to get along without those who don't think like you? If not, is there one nearby?

I am trying to figure the same thing and then trying to decide how much my preferences are worth to me.

I have recently decided that the 6-10% cost to sell my house to move 2 miles where there are more like minded people is worth it.

We have the freedom in our lives to live our lives every day. F Yeah!!!

[RINGLEADER]

Maybe it was just me but I remember being lined up in school and vaccinated and I don't remember having a choice about it.

Penn and Teller had it right (some F-bombs so be warned):

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's called "pharmacia", and yes they want to kill you.

Sorry if that hurts your ass.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by splatbass

You don't have the "right" to risk the lives of others. You don't get to let your "freedom" take away the freedom of others.

THIS!

Just like GURU's example. He was exposed. He was not told of the risk. Thats just unacceptable. No one in America has the right to harm others to protect their "freedom".

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by BeeHo

April 21, 2015 - Journal of the American Medical Association - one of the highest regarded medical journals in our country

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....icleid=2275444

Results Of 95 727 children with older siblings, 994 (1.04%) were diagnosed with ASD and 1929 (2.01%) had an older sibling with ASD. Of those with older siblings with ASD, 134 (6.9%) had ASD, vs 860 (0.9%) children with unaffected siblings (P < .001). MMR vaccination rates (≥1 dose) were 84% (n = 78 564) at age 2 years and 92% (n = 86 063) at age 5 years for children with unaffected older siblings, vs 73% (n = 1409) at age 2 years and 86% (n = 1660) at age 5 years for children with affected siblings. MMR vaccine receipt was not associated with an increased risk of ASD at any age. For children with older siblings with ASD, at age 2, the adjusted relative risk (RR) of ASD for 1 dose of MMR vaccine vs no vaccine was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18; P = .22), and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses compared with no vaccine was 0.56 (95% CI, 0.31-1.01; P = .052). For children whose older siblings did not have ASD, at age 2, the adjusted RR of ASD for 1 dose was 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20; P = .50) and at age 5, the RR of ASD for 2 doses was 1.12 (95% CI, 0.78-1.59; P = .55).

Conclusions and Relevance In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.

You're speaking to deaf ears. Bd doesn't care. He found the Wakefield study, accepted it and that is that. It doesn't matter that that study has been discredited or retracted and is commonly referred to as so poor that it's not even science.

BD's entire life philosophy revolves around that shitty study.

[Sully]

Forced vacations?

I'm in.

[jAZ]

Ahhh... The good old days!

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Cochise

It would help if the anti-vaxxers would not scream about pseudoscience that has been totally discredited, like the autism nonsense.

If you argued that parents should make the choice and not bureaucrats, people would probably be more open to it. When you joyfully reject common sense and protest with your fingers in your ears, you look crazy, and nobody wants to join a group of crazies.

Well this kinda sounds like me on a different subject. So we agree at last. Just substitute one word

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd throw in an extra $10 if the pitbull is lesbian/bi-sexual, like all women

Wait, what? My wife has been holding out on the 3somes with hot cheerleaders than.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

That happens to few people. Usually with compromised immune systems, other health issues or who live in third world countries. You can say some die from vaccines too. That has happened too.

Besides, if you kid is immunized what do you care if another doesn't.

What a dumbass comment. Yeah **** those kids. **** it there will be more people living off our tax dollars. Plane ignorance and arrogance in your dumbass comment.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Do any of you price alarmist dumbasses ever consider what the social and medical costs of hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of disabilities and deaths would be?

Penny-wise, pound-foolish.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Some kids aren't able to be vaccinated because they are either too young or because they have other medical conditions that would be exacerbated by the vaccine. Vaccines also aren't 100% effective, so if an infected kid shows up at a school, there's a decent chance that at least one kid will be at risk of being infected due to at least one of these circumstances.

Yup, bolded part is absolutely true.