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Old 02-18-2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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From before or after the suicide?
After watching that video? After, without a doubt.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:48 AM   #2
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Never heard of her but given her genre I'd have done the same thing.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:50 AM   #3
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:27 AM   #4
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I thought this was referencing Natalie from Facts of LIfe.

whew. close call
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:28 AM   #5
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I liked her first two albums. But then she just went downhill.

I wonder if it was lost love or a guilty conscience that lead her to do this.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:58 AM   #6
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I liked her first two albums. But then she just went downhill.

I wonder if it was lost love or a guilty conscience that lead her to do this.

See CDCOXs post from the first page. Apparently, the love of her life and baby daddy offed himself like a month ago. She's had a long history of problems.

Also, wasn't it rumored she hooked up with Roger Clemons when she was only 16?
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:20 AM   #7
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See CDCOXs post from the first page. Apparently, the love of her life and baby daddy offed himself like a month ago. She's had a long history of problems.

Also, wasn't it rumored she hooked up with Roger Clemons when she was only 16?
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:57 AM   #8
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:24 PM   #9
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Firearms by far are the most common method of suicide in America. The idea that restricting access to firearms wouldn't reduce the suicide rate is laughable.

It would also severely reduce murder, manslaughter, assault, etc... but we all know that.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:29 PM   #10
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It would also severely reduce murder, manslaughter, assault, etc... but we all know that.
Well except for the actual evidence we have on hand, you're exactly right.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:28 PM   #11
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Firearms by far are the most common method of suicide in America. The idea that restricting access to firearms wouldn't reduce the suicide rate is laughable.

It would also severely reduce murder, manslaughter, assault, etc... but we all know that.
JFC man you're still going....I was going to kick you in the balls over this but I refrained last night in hopes that you'd let it go but it seems not....

So let's go with your theory that 'Restricting access to firearms would reduce the suicide rate'. It stands to reason that those countries with fewer firearms per capita should have measurably lower suicide rates than the US right?

So lets take a look.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_suicide_rate

Who's #1....wait it's not the US....it's South Korea at 31.7 per 100K...wait isn't firearms effectively Verboten in Korea? How can they commit so many suicides?

Look who's #6 PRC at 22.23...but wait aren't guns forbidden there too? Maybe it's just a statistical anomaly due to low population numbers artificially inflating the rate.

How about #7 Japan at 21.9...hmmm it's really hard to get a gun there...

Damn 3 SE Asian countries in the top 7 there's not a cultural correlation is there?

But let's look somewhere closer to our western home
The French at #24 with a 15.0 rate....but isn't it a PITA to get a gun there?(but hey it's France...if I were French I might be tempted to kill myself too!)

Where's the US with bar far the most guns per capita in the world?
We're #34 at a rate of 12.0

Wait who's right behind us at #38???
The UK with a rate of 11.8..but wait aren't they the poster children for gun control since their firearm murder rate is so low???

But lets go even closer to home...
#39 our neighbors to the north....Canada at 11.3 where it is not easy at all to get a gun.

So why even with countries that are very difficult to get guns does the suicide rate not go down? Because often people will substitute one method for another.

People like to talk about how effective firearms are at committing suicide, sorry they are weak. Know what the number one single suicide device in the world is? The Golden Gate Bridge most suicides in the world and about a 98% effectiveness rating. Because if the fall doesn't kill you, you're going to drown trying to swim in the ice cold water below.

So should we now ban access to bridges because they are such lethal killing machines?????
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JFC man you're still going....I was going to kick you in the balls over this but I refrained last night in hopes that you'd let it go but it seems not....

So let's go with your theory that 'Restricting access to firearms would reduce the suicide rate'. It stands to reason that those countries with fewer firearms per capita should have measurably lower suicide rates than the US right?

So lets take a look.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_suicide_rate

Who's #1....wait it's not the US....it's South Korea at 31.7 per 100K...wait isn't firearms effectively Verboten in Korea? How can they commit so many suicides?

Look who's #6 PRC at 22.23...but wait aren't guns forbidden there too? Maybe it's just a statistical anomaly due to low population numbers artificially inflating the rate.

How about #7 Japan at 21.9...hmmm it's really hard to get a gun there...

Damn 3 SE Asian countries in the top 7 there's not a cultural correlation is there?

But let's look somewhere closer to our western home
The French at #24 with a 15.0 rate....but isn't it a PITA to get a gun there?(but hey it's France...if I were French I might be tempted to kill myself too!)

Where's the US with bar far the most guns per capita in the world?
We're #34 at a rate of 12.0

Wait who's right behind us at #38???
The UK with a rate of 11.8..but wait aren't they the poster children for gun control since their firearm murder rate is so low???

But lets go even closer to home...
#39 our neighbors to the north....Canada at 11.3 where it is not easy at all to get a gun.

So why even with countries that are very difficult to get guns does the suicide rate not go down? Because often people will substitute one method for another.

People like to talk about how effective firearms are at committing suicide, sorry they are weak. Know what the number one single suicide device in the world is? The Golden Gate Bridge most suicides in the world and about a 98% effectiveness rating. Because if the fall doesn't kill you, you're going to drown trying to swim in the ice cold water below.

So should we now ban access to bridges because they are such lethal killing machines?????
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:36 PM   #13
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JFC man you're still going....I was going to kick you in the balls over this but I refrained last night in hopes that you'd let it go but it seems not....

So let's go with your theory that 'Restricting access to firearms would reduce the suicide rate'. It stands to reason that those countries with fewer firearms per capita should have measurably lower suicide rates than the US right?

So lets take a look.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_suicide_rate

Who's #1....wait it's not the US....it's South Korea at 31.7 per 100K...wait isn't firearms effectively Verboten in Korea? How can they commit so many suicides?

Look who's #6 PRC at 22.23...but wait aren't guns forbidden there too? Maybe it's just a statistical anomaly due to low population numbers artificially inflating the rate.

How about #7 Japan at 21.9...hmmm it's really hard to get a gun there...

Damn 3 SE Asian countries in the top 7 there's not a cultural correlation is there?

But let's look somewhere closer to our western home
The French at #24 with a 15.0 rate....but isn't it a PITA to get a gun there?(but hey it's France...if I were French I might be tempted to kill myself too!)

Where's the US with bar far the most guns per capita in the world?
We're #34 at a rate of 12.0

Wait who's right behind us at #38???
The UK with a rate of 11.8..but wait aren't they the poster children for gun control since their firearm murder rate is so low???

But lets go even closer to home...
#39 our neighbors to the north....Canada at 11.3 where it is not easy at all to get a gun.

So why even with countries that are very difficult to get guns does the suicide rate not go down? Because often people will substitute one method for another.

People like to talk about how effective firearms are at committing suicide, sorry they are weak. Know what the number one single suicide device in the world is? The Golden Gate Bridge most suicides in the world and about a 98% effectiveness rating. Because if the fall doesn't kill you, you're going to drown trying to swim in the ice cold water below.

So should we now ban access to bridges because they are such lethal killing machines?????
Are you so stupid not to think that the reasons people commit suicide may be more severe in these other countries? Work pressure? Family issues? You must not know much about South Korea.

37 people killed themselves by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge in 2011.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ar-3390080.php

Guns account for 50% of all suicides in America. (roughly 38,000 total suicides per year)

http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseac...135c3a70de1fda

Your comparison of jumping off a bridge to using a gun to kill yourself is laughable. In fact it helps prove my point. Picking up a gun and pointing it at your head is easy, accessible, quicker not only physically but mentally.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:36 PM   #14
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Are you so stupid not to think that the reasons people commit suicide may be more severe in these other countries? Work pressure? Family issues? You must not know much about South Korea.

37 people killed themselves by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge in 2011.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ar-3390080.php

Guns account for 50% of all suicides in America. (roughly 38,000 total suicides per year)

http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseac...135c3a70de1fda

Your comparison of jumping off a bridge to using a gun to kill yourself is laughable. In fact it helps prove my point. Picking up a gun and pointing it at your head is easy, accessible, quicker not only physically but mentally.
Sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this. Okay, you've convinced me. You should definitely kill yourself with a gun. Remember, the end with the hole goes against the roof of your mouth.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:54 PM   #15
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Sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this. Okay, you've convinced me. You should definitely kill yourself with a gun. Remember, the end with the hole goes against the roof of your mouth.
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