LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?

[BossChief]

Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?

[O.city]

I wish he was that guy. We need more gunslinger

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No they don't. Reaching for a position just to have one isn't a good philosophy.

Nobody on this board wanted Flacco. Nobody on this board knew who ****ing Flacco was. The guy who was too pussy to try and tough it out at Pittsburgh, the guy who was back up to Tyler ****ing Palko, so he transfers to Delaware to jack up his stats? That guy?

DJ has been an All-Pro and one of the top three guys at his position over the past five years. We also now have the guy that went first overall in his draft class, the guy most teams had rated over Rogers.

Seriously...those are your examples of the guys we should have took? Lose draft picks for Tannehill? Take Bridgewater when we already had two backups on the roster in Daniel and Bray? (And they drafted Murray in that draft anyway - a guy people liked around here.) Brees? Really? You are going that far back? Shit, why not start bitching it up about passing on Jim Kelly for Blackledge while you are at it.

Go start another thread about drafting some linemen from Utah in the first.

Pussy.

I listed those guys because they are Super Bowl champions that we passed on...or are very talented young quarterbacks we weren't interested in.

I know you don't want to hear it, but Alex Smith is 31 and is coming off a bad year.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Wins and or losses isn't a justifiable way to rate qb play.

If that's the only thing you're basing this off of, no, he's not that guy anymore

You upgrade just two positions on this offensive line and give this team just one WR who can break off his foot in a defenses ass when coming off the line and hitting his breaks, you will see that guy.

Three position upgrades and this team is in the Super Bowl.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Go start another thread about drafting some linemen from Utah in the first.

Pussy.

I listed those guys because they are Super Bowl champions that we passed on...or are very talented young quarterbacks we weren't interested in.

I know you don't want to hear it, but Alex Smith is 31 and is coming off a bad year.

9-7 and beating the best teams in the NFC (Seattle) and AFC (Patriots) isn't a bad year.

9-7 with the toughest schedule in the NFL isn't a bad year.

9-7 with the worst WR and youngest OL group in the NFL isn't a bad year.

I'm not sure how damaged your short term memory is, but if you look back on the ten years prior to Smith and Reid showing up, I don't have any clue as to how you could call the 2014 Chiefs season a "bad year."

[O.city]

The chiefs didn't have a bad year.

Alex smith didn't have a bad year. He had his normal year which proved to not be good enough.

[BossChief]

A good quarterback in a pass first offense with a QB guru should never end up with the lowest rated passing game in the NFL.

Lets not act as if the skill position players are "worst in the NFL"

Bowe is a good receiver
Kelce is a top 5 tight end
Wilson and Thomas offer the offense lots of speed and playmaking ability.
Charles and Davis are probably the best running back duo in the NFL.

Teams stacked the box to shut down the run and flood the short zones to eliminate YAC and were literally giving us the deep routes and Alex didn't know what to do.

So, he ended with the leagues worst passing attack and set and NFL record for futility in an era where the rules are slanted to make it easier to throw the ball.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You upgrade just two positions on this offensive line and give this team just one WR who can break off his foot in a defenses ass when coming off the line and hitting his breaks, you will see that guy.

Three position upgrades and this team is in the Super Bowl.

You know what? I've been "seeing that guy" for decades now.

**** that guy.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If Andy Reid really considered getting rid of Alex Smith he wouldn't have signed him to that contract, nor would he have sought out offensive players who do almost all of their damage horizontally.

He knows Smith's limitations and has actively embraced them. He's here until 2018 at the earliest.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

A good quarterback in a pass first offense with a QB guru should never end up with the lowest rated passing game in the NFL.

Lets not act as if the skill position players are "worst in the NFL"

Bowe is a good receiver
Kelce is a top 5 tight end
Wilson and Thomas offer the offense lots of speed and playmaking ability.
Charles and Davis are probably the best running back duo in the NFL.

Teams stacked the box to shut down the run and flood the short zones to eliminate YAC and were literally giving us the deep routes and Alex didn't know what to do.

So, he ended with the leagues worst passing attack and set and NFL record for futility in an era where the rules are slanted to make it easier to throw the ball.

What happened Boss? Did your Cheetos eating pals make fun of you 'cause your Madden team didn't put up passing TD's?

Dwayne Bowe is a good receiver in the right system. He's mediocre at best in this system because he runs shit routes, has bad hands and doesn't know where he's at on the field. Right now, he's the single biggest detriment to this team in terms of getting a better guy on the field and tying up massive monetary resources that could be better allocated.

Kelce has the potential to be a Top 3 TE in the NFL. Right now, he's lazy with his technique and lacks serious focus.

Wilson and Thomas are rookies. Thomas is too light in the ass to be anything other than a PR/KR and gadget offensive guy unless he figures out how to run routes like Jackson or Beckham. Wilson is a track guy from a small school. He didn't show dick last season.

Like I said, shit WR's and shit/young OL. However...

9-7 against the hardest schedule in the NFL in 2014 with wins over the two best teams in each division.

That's progress, significant progress, against what this team was and what it accomplished in a short two seasons ago.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

You know what? I've been "seeing that guy" for decades now.

No you haven't.

**** that guy.

I'm with you. **** that guy. Croyle, Huard, Palko, et al.

Smith is not that guy.

Give this team those three positions and we, along with the Colts, are the team to beat in the AFC for the next three to five years. (And, frankly, I think we are better than the Colts.)

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Andy Reid really considered getting rid of Alex Smith he wouldn't have signed him to that contract, nor would he have sought out offensive players who do almost all of their damage horizontally.

He knows Smith's limitations and has actively embraced them. He's here until 2018 at the earliest.

They tried to sign Desean Jackson and Emmanuel Sanders after signing Donnie Avery the year before.

They also signed Wilson who is a speed burner, too...as is Thomas.

I wish I knew how to move a video from my genie to the computer so I could play the video from after the hey last year with Andy talking about Alex and throwing deep and how important it is to his ability to keep his job as a starting NFL quarterback.

Iirc it's either the pregame or during halftime.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

No you haven't.



I'm with you. **** that guy. Croyle, Huard, Palko, et al.

Smith is not that guy.

Give this team those three positions and we, along with the Colts, are the team to beat in the AFC for the next three to five years. (And, frankly, I think we are better than the Colts.)

No.

[Saccopoo]

Yes.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Smith is a scared, heaping bag of dicks. Defending him at this point is outright comical.

[BossChief]

Sac can be very silly when talking about Utah players