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Old 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM  
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Russell Wilson

Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much?

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Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out.

Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist.

Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw.

Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second.

On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield.

Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:30 PM   #31
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I'm already on the Wilson bandwagon. I think he's a perfect pick. Lots of potential upside if you strike, and you can get him later in the draft so there's very little cost. I'd take him before someone else does in the 4th or so, maybe even the third. Love this pick on a risk/reward basis, and I think Pioli thinks like that.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:13 PM   #32
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:26 PM   #33
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Okay, I just watched some tape on Wilson after really not knowing too much about him. I'm rather impressed! He looks like a baller to me.....he's fast, accurate, a gun for an arm and has a quick release also. His only draw back seems to be that he's about 5' 10". If he were 6'1" I'd be willing to bet he would be ranked high in the first round (same with Kellen Moore who I've also liked as a late round prospect). Wilson gives you that additional running ability though.....an extra dimension from the QB position that the Chiefs haven't had in a while. In Wilson I kind of see a bit of Brees' game with comparable agility to Vick and the speed of an Aaron Rodgers. Overall not a bad combination. Question is where do you draft the guy......4th or 5th Rd. perhaps?
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:49 PM   #34
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Watch him against Michigan St and Ohio St.

I don't blame him for the Rose Bowl loss against Oregon, since that was more an issue of Wisconsin's defense being AIDS.

I really would have like to see Wilson turn in some clutch performances against the top schools in his conference. That would have sealed the deal for me. Now that I think about it, I'm not so sure this "it" everybody talks about is as real as they think.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:52 PM   #35
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The other issue is he's already 25. In any other draft where people weren't talking about a close to goddamn 30 year old being drafted, that would be a huge mark against him. As such, many people are flat-out ignoring Wilson's age it seems like.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:42 PM   #36
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The other issue is he's already 25. In any other draft where people weren't talking about a close to goddamn 30 year old being drafted, that would be a huge mark against him. As such, many people are flat-out ignoring Wilson's age it seems like.
A lot of difference between a 29 year old rookie and a 25 year old. Weeden will be 29 in October. The physical peak of a QB usually ends around 34, so you're looking at a peak time of only 5 years for Weeden, and nearly a decade for Wilson.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:59 PM   #37
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The guy is balls out on play action which would meld nicely with our RB corp. Also, he is very capable of rolling out and firing a laser. I think this really creates some problems for any defense that faces us. In this sense, his short stature plays in our favor: where is our QB and does he have the ball or did he hand it off?

You bite on the play action, and he still has the ball, you have to find him while Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and Moeaki are are tearing up the secondary. You don't bite on the play action and he hands it off, you have HUGE running lanes for Charles and Hillis.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #38
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I really like Russell Wilson. To be honest he is probably my 3rd favorite QB in the draft behind Luck and RGIII. If he was 3-4 inches taller, he would be a 1st round pick easily. He is a blast to watch!
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Okay, I just watched some tape on Wilson after really not knowing too much about him. I'm rather impressed! He looks like a baller to me.....he's fast, accurate, a gun for an arm and has a quick release also. His only draw back seems to be that he's about 5' 10". If he were 6'1" I'd be willing to bet he would be ranked high in the first round (same with Kellen Moore who I've also liked as a late round prospect). Wilson gives you that additional running ability though.....an extra dimension from the QB position that the Chiefs haven't had in a while. In Wilson I kind of see a bit of Brees' game with comparable agility to Vick and the speed of an Aaron Rodgers. Overall not a bad combination. Question is where do you draft the guy......4th or 5th Rd. perhaps?
Kellen Moore's arm is a wet noodle. How you could even put his name and drafted in the same sentence is beyond me, let alone in the first round.
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Watch him against Michigan St and Ohio St.

I don't blame him for the Rose Bowl loss against Oregon, since that was more an issue of Wisconsin's defense being AIDS.

I really would have like to see Wilson turn in some clutch performances against the top schools in his conference. That would have sealed the deal for me. Now that I think about it, I'm not so sure this "it" everybody talks about is as real as they think.
He planted a foot in Nebraska's ass. Now, if you want to comment on if Nebraska is a top school in their conference, then feel free.
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Watch him against Michigan St and Ohio St.

I don't blame him for the Rose Bowl loss against Oregon, since that was more an issue of Wisconsin's defense being AIDS.

I really would have like to see Wilson turn in some clutch performances against the top schools in his conference. That would have sealed the deal for me. Now that I think about it, I'm not so sure this "it" everybody talks about is as real as they think.
His numbers are still pretty good.

AT Michigan State, he was 14-21(66.7%) for 223, 2 TD's and 2 INT's.

AT Ohio State, he was 20-32(62.5%) for 253, 3 TD's and 0 INT's.

Big 10 championship vs. Michigan State, he was 17-24 (70.8%) for 187, 3 TD's and 0 INT's

Now, I fully admit to not watching or remembering these games, so if there is more to be said about his performances against those teams, then I'm all ears.

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The other issue is he's already 25. In any other draft where people weren't talking about a close to goddamn 30 year old being drafted, that would be a huge mark against him. As such, many people are flat-out ignoring Wilson's age it seems like.
His birthday (on Wiki and ESPN) is listed as November 29, 1988, which makes him 23.
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The other issue is he's already 25. In any other draft where people weren't talking about a close to goddamn 30 year old being drafted, that would be a huge mark against him. As such, many people are flat-out ignoring Wilson's age it seems like.
And besides, he's not Stanzi. Don't forget that either!??
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Kellen Moore's arm is a wet noodle. How you could even put his name and drafted in the same sentence is beyond me, let alone in the first round.
Obviously you have some reading comprehension problems.....never anywhere in my original post did I say I liked Kellen Moore in the first round. I clearly stated that if Wislon was two or three inches taller he'd probably be drafted in the first round or at least looked at as a first round prospect. I only compared their game a bit. Especially in the sense that they're both short, but can both game. Also maybe you haven't seen enough tape on Moore. His arm I believe will just be just fine in the NFL. He would however have to add a lot more muscle mass/ bulk as I don't think he could take some of the hits NFL QBs without getting broken in two. His arm his fine though....I've watched him make many a fine throw throughout his playing days at Boise St. and was always impressed. Also in my original post you will see that I said I like Moore as a LATE ROUND prospect (6th/ 7th rd. or UDFA perhaps)......where as I pegged Wislon in the 4th round perhaps. I think that should clear it up for you as to where I was going with the Wilson/ Moore comparison in my original post.
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