Chiefs Mellinger: First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10

I suppose the best thing to remember is that Reid is never going to be satisfied with 'just ok' qb play long term. When McNabb began to decline, he drafted Kolb, signed Vick. When Vick wasnt a long term fix, he drafted Foles.

Alex Smith is here to establish some sort of consistency at the position. He's not here because Reid wants to show the NFL he's a genius who picks qbs in the 7th.

I like geno, and if they pick him, great. But if everyone sees something and you don't, what are the odds that it's everyone else?

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

The_Doctor10 · 04-06-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

The biggest problem with both Kolb and Vick is their inability to stay on the field; both are concussion magnets. Subtract some severe brain trauma, there's very little wrong with them as quarterbacks. Vick's second season in Philly was as dominant a season as a qb has had in the last fifteen years. And largely credited to the work Reid did with him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10

The biggest problem with both Kolb and Vick is their inability to stay on the field; both are concussion magnets. Subtract some severe brain trauma, there's very little wrong with them as quarterbacks. Vick's second season in Philly was as dominant a season as a qb has had in the last fifteen years. And largely credited to the work Reid did with him.

This is a commonly held belief that happens to be completely false. Vick played tremendously for about a ten game stretch. That's not a full season of greatness.

There have been numerous other QBs who have put together tremendous aberrational years: Jake Delhomme, Steve Beuerlein, and Derek Anderson to name a few.

The_Doctor10 · 04-06-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a commonly held belief that happens to be completely false. Vick played tremendously for about a ten game stretch. That's not a full season of greatness.

There have been numerous other QBs who have put together tremendous aberrational years: Jake Delhomme, Steve Beuerlein, and Derek Anderson to name a few.

Alright then; all im saying is reid isn't the sort to just commit blindly to one qb. So I have no doubt he's willing to jump on a qb who could be better than Alex smith. And I don't know that he thinks there's one in this draft.or at least, the talent differential isnt much between geno and a guy like Glennon, to justify taking him at 1.1 vs round 3.

And I assume if that's the case, the reasoning isn't 'I want to succeed only with Alex smith'

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-06-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10

Alright then; all im saying is reid isn't the sort to just commit blindly to one qb. So I have no doubt he's willing to jump on a qb who could be better than Alex smith. And I don't know that he thinks there's one in this draft.or at least, the talent differential isnt much between geno and a guy like Glennon, to justify taking him at 1.1 vs round 3.

And I assume if that's the case, the reasoning isn't 'I want to succeed only with Alex smith'

FWIW, I've been told by multiple people associated with the league in one way or another, that the Chiefs are absolutely sold on Alex Smith.

Again, take it FWIW.

Mother****erJones · 04-06-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

FWIW, I've been told by multiple people associated with the league in one way or another, that the Chiefs are absolutely sold on Alex Smith.

Again, take it FWIW.

Sure they are, they gave up a 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd next year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-06-2013, 09:44 PM

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Sure they are, they gave up a 2nd rounder and a conditional 3rd next year.

But besides that fact, they apparently truly believe that he's a championship caliber QB that will have the same success in KC has he's had for the past two seasons in SF.

Again, take it FWIW.

The_Doctor10 · 04-06-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

FWIW, I've been told by multiple people associated with the league in one way or another, that the Chiefs are absolutely sold on Alex Smith.

Again, take it FWIW.

For now, I'm sure they are. If he doesn't measure up, I'm sure they'll kick him to the curb. But if someone better or with the potential to be better comes available, I don't think for a second they would pass on him because they had Alex smith on the roster.

DTLB58 · 04-06-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor10

For now, I'm sure they are. If he doesn't measure up, I'm sure they'll kick him to the curb. But if someone better or with the potential to be better comes available, I don't think for a second they would pass on him because they had Alex smith on the roster.

Well, lets hope if he fails they kick him to the curb oppose to holding onto to him for four seasons and living through HELL!

Fat Elvis · 04-06-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

FWIW, I've been told by multiple people associated with the league in one way or another, that the Chiefs are absolutely sold on Alex Smith.

Again, take it FWIW.

I believe that. You don't go into a presser and tell everyone that you think the QB that everyone else thought you overpaid for is going to be a future hall of famer if you aren't completely sold on the guy. I think they honestly beleive he will be in the HoF. I think they are giddy that they got him for the compensation that they gave up for him.

I think Chiefs fans wanted a gun slinger, but Reid and Dorsey were looking for a more cerebral QB. I think they have that in ASmith.

I hope he is as good as they think he is.

I'd still like us to pick up Geno. If not, I won't be crushed. I'd be disappointed, sure. If we don't get a QB, I would like for us to trade down and get a passrusher (Ansah--I think when all is said and done, he will be the premier defensive player in this draft). I will even live if we get Fisher.... This game is all about QB: you either get one, protect one or kill one. We will get a player that does one of those things.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-06-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

rofl...vintage Hamas.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 04-06-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

IMO, this is where Bob Sutton's role takes on the utmost importance.

Reid has always been able to fabricate an efficient offense but since the death of Jim Johnson, his defenses have struggled enormously, which have led to losing seasons.

If Sutton can put together a top 12 or so defense, this team will be very good. But if he can't, then they'll struggle.