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Old 07-01-2015, 09:09 AM  
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Andy Reid
I don't get the hate for this guy. I've seen people compare him to Herm Edwards. He's the best coach in this franchises history. A top 10 coach in the league who's only had 3 losing seasons and 150 wins.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:20 AM   #46
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Sure, but this is my point: Reid's continued tenure as a HC is because of decisions he made almost two decades ago.

What has he done since McNabb was in Philly and since Johnson was his DC?

... and to the first person that tries to cock slap me upside the head with "Durrrr, the '13 Chiefs!"

1) Easiest nine game stretch any team could ever be gifted by the scheduling committee and fluke injuries
2) What was the combined record of the team the two seasons prior to 2013 and how many of those players on those two teams were still key factors to 2013's success?
I think we need to see how Reid fares now that he is no longer making personnel decisions.
That was, IMO, his biggest downfall, along with the poor choice in replacing Johnson.

I think Reid is overrated to some extent, but he is stil, in fact, one of the better ones in the league.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:36 AM   #47
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Great point.

Everyone wants to use 2012 as a defense for this "great turnaround" while ignoring that this team was basically a .500 team who had one bad season.

It's not like they had been a 2 win team for 5+ years.
Ummmm
What?
1 bad season?

I hope I missed your joke here or something...

2007 4 wins
2008 2 wins
2009 4 wins
2010 10 wins
2011 7 wins
2012 2 wins

That's what you see as "basically a .500 team with one bad year?"
2013 11 wins (should have been 12 if the refs didn't steal the finale away)
2014 9 wins

The 6 years prior to Reids arrival...29 wins..and average of less than 5 wins per year. How is that "basically a .500 team?" That's a .30 win percentage between 2007-2012.... Just a .28 win percentage in the 2 years before Reid got here.

The 2 years with Reid ...20 wins (should have been at least 21)...an average of 10 wins per year

FFS some of you guys have become rediculous.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:37 AM   #48
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0-3 in the playoffs without Johnson, 0-2 without McNabb.

Drafting McNabb has made Reid's career.. Without that fact, Reid's ceiling is OC.
Actually, Reid made Mcnabbs career. He also made people think AJ Feely & Kevin Kolb we're NFL qbs. Without Mcnabb Reid won 20 games over last 2 seasons, and has a winning record over the last 5 seasons since he traded McNabb, which included a diaster of a year 2012. He has a career winning % of .586 over a 16 years. He is a high quality NFL coach with or without McNabb.
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Reid is a pretty good coach that does some things very well, and some things he sucks at. Like forgetting about the running game and no idea how to manage a clock.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:41 AM   #50
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Need more proof?? Andy Reid hasn't won a football game in at least 5 months. Enough said. /discussthrower
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Great point.

Everyone wants to use 2012 as a defense for this "great turnaround" while ignoring that this team was basically a .500 team who had one bad season.

It's not like they had been a 2 win team for 5+ years.
The team made the playoffs 1 time in 6 seasons before Reid got here. Put down the pipe man.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:44 AM   #52
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Why the **** are you guys going back 6 seasons?

Oh, wait. To make your argument hold up.

Apparently you missed this:

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how many of those players on those two teams were still key factors to 2013's success?
17 wins in two years doesn't happen by accident, and there were a lot of players on those two teams who played a huge role in 2013 and 2014.

You dipshits spent all those years saying we had a ton of talent and that coaching was the problem, now the cupboard was bare?

GTFO.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:45 AM   #53
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.28 = .50
Going from 28% to 63% isn't a big deal
Where a coach that took his team to 4 straight NFC Championships isn't a big deal
Where a coach should run a RB more, even though most of his body is truly injured
Where a guy isn't a good offensive coach even though he had 4 guys starting that nobody wanted after the year and HE STILL RAN AN OFFENSE THAT WAS 16th in scoring and 13th in PPP
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The team made the playoffs 1 time in 6 seasons before Reid got here. Put down the pipe man.
And got annihilated in that game.

Just embarrassed.
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Why the **** are you guys going back 6 seasons?

Oh, wait. To make your argument hold up.

Apparently you missed this:



17 wins in two years doesn't happen by accident, and there were a lot of players on those two teams who played a huge role in 2013 and 2014.

You dipshits spent all those years saying we had a ton of talent and that coaching was the problem, now the cupboard was bare?

GTFO.
I went back 6 seasons to try to help YOU.

You said the 2 years prior to Reids arrival, we were "basically a .500 team with 1 bad year. It's not like this was a terrible team over 5 years or something"

Haha
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Is Andy Reid the best coach in the division?

I'd probably say yes.
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Is Andy Reid the best coach in the division?

I'd probably say yes.
Probably? He's easily the best.
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Why the **** are you guys going back 6 seasons?

Oh, wait. To make your argument hold up.

Apparently you missed this:



17 wins in two years doesn't happen by accident, and there were a lot of players on those two teams who played a huge role in 2013 and 2014.

You dipshits spent all those years saying we had a ton of talent and that coaching was the problem, now the cupboard was bare?

GTFO.
Nobody said that.

I can say that since Reid/Dorsey got here, they jettisoned lots of that talent we had...and still won a lot of games.

Flowers
Bowe
Jackson
Albert
Dorsey

I mean, have you peeked at the roster these guys inherited from 2012?
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