Football Do you think the NFL is "rigged?" - Page 5

cosmo20002 · 12-09-2013, 09:45 AM

Pretty simple question: Do you think the NFL is "rigged?"

Specifically, do you believe the NFL has a preferred outcome for games AND orders its officiating crews to make calls for/against teams for the purpose of achieving that preferred outcome?

cosmo20002 · 12-09-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ping2000

Certain teams have figured it out:

1. Refs can't look everywhere at everything. Design your offense to bend/break the rules. You don't get caught every time.
2. Make sure your players bitch on every incompletion. You'll get some.
3. If you have a star QB, you get the benefit if the doubt on some calls.

Not fixed, just sucks.

I think this is a reasonable take. And it doesn't come close to being the same as the game being rigged or directed by the NFL.

mschiefs1984 · 12-09-2013, 11:08 AM

I think the NFL does have some teams get the benefit of the doubt but it's not to the point where you can't beat them. I think the NFL allows Denvers O line to get away with murder for their holds to keep Manning healthy. But I don't think they go into games saying this team has to win

cosmo20002 · 12-09-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Wrestling?

Stopped watching about 8th grade.

KC_Lee · 12-09-2013, 11:11 AM

How many pick plays does Denver run every game vs. how many times the refs throw a flag. There's your answer.

cosmo20002 · 12-09-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Wow. 40% of Chiefsplaneteers actually believe the NFL is rigged, but they watch anyway?

Makes no sense at all. Especially with how upset people get about roster choices, playcalling, etc. If you know the outcome is predetermined, why get so pissed about the details?

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Wow. 40% of Chiefsplaneteers actually believe the NFL is rigged, but they watch anyway?

I voted rigged, but that's not really my definition. I think it's tilted, but not outright rigged. At least not yet.

KC_Lee · 12-09-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Makes no sense at all. Especially with how upset people get about roster choices, playcalling, etc. If you know the outcome is predetermined, why get so pissed about the details?

Don't thinks it's predetermined but the NFL would love to see certian teams with certian players suceed over other teams. The refs are the easiest way to help that along.

Fixed? No. Underhanded? Yes.

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Stopped watching about 8th grade.

I'm just pointing out that there's precedent for a sport to transition from sport to scripted entertainment and not only retain viewership but increase it dramatically.

Tombstone RJ · 12-09-2013, 11:15 AM

I totally agree. I remember a game back at camerohead where kc won after a kick return for a TD. On that play the ref was standing right in front of a Broncos player who was blocked in the back by the cheat'n chiefs. No flag. But, it gets better. There was a few more block in the backs that also didn't get flagged and kc ended up winning that game. cheat'n chiefs gonna cheat some.

**dirk digler** · 12-09-2013, 11:16 AM

I don't think it is fixed like the WWE but I feel pretty confidant in saying that the star players get star treatment.

cosmo20002 · 12-09-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I voted rigged, but that's not really my definition. I think it's tilted, but not outright rigged. At least not yet.

I set out the definition for the purposes of the poll. And now you've ruined the whole thing.

KC_Lee · 12-09-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't think it is fixed like the WWE but I feel pretty confidant in saying that the star players get star treatment.

And desired player match ups, i.e. Brady vs. Manning in the AFC Championship.

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I totally agree. I remember a game back at camerohead where kc won after a kick return for a TD. On that play the ref was standing right in front of a Broncos player who was blocked in the back by the cheat'n chiefs. No flag. But, it gets better. There was a few more block in the backs that also didn't get flagged and kc ended up winning that game. cheat'n chiefs gonna cheat some.

That play was too exciting to call a penalty on. It would have damaged the marketing value. Just like there's a great marketing value in having Elway win a championship as a GM, so it's going to happen. Congratulations to you on the success of your chosen NFL industrial division.

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I set out the definition for the purposes of the poll. And now you've ruined the whole thing.

And I feel badly about that.

scho63 · 12-09-2013, 11:19 AM

I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think the refs feel pressure from certain teams and superstar players to call more penalties on their behalf.

Yesterday there were at least two HORRIBLE calls that probably changed the outcome of the game.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Browns at the end of the game that gave the Pats a first and goal.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Vikings when the Ravens player tripped on his own that negated a game ending INT for the Vikings with little time left.

I heard there were a few more but probably not as big as these two.

I think this year's referees have been some of the worst I've ever seen. The roughing the passer call on Flowers earlier this year when he brushed feet with the QB was so bad.

I think the NFL has a problem developing because it's getting worse, not better.

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12-09-2013, 09:45 AM
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12-09-2013, 11:08 AM	#62
mschiefs1984 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Casino cash: $5499760	I think the NFL does have some teams get the benefit of the doubt but it's not to the point where you can't beat them. I think the NFL allows Denvers O line to get away with murder for their holds to keep Manning healthy. But I don't think they go into games saying this team has to win
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Tombstone RJ Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver Casino cash: $10012184	I totally agree. I remember a game back at camerohead where kc won after a kick return for a TD. On that play the ref was standing right in front of a Broncos player who was blocked in the back by the cheat'n chiefs. No flag. But, it gets better. There was a few more block in the backs that also didn't get flagged and kc ended up winning that game. cheat'n chiefs gonna cheat some. __________________ ORANGE COLORED GLASSES ARE ALWAYS ON!
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12-09-2013, 11:19 AM	#75
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2591110	I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think the refs feel pressure from certain teams and superstar players to call more penalties on their behalf. Yesterday there were at least two HORRIBLE calls that probably changed the outcome of the game. The FAKE pass interference call on the Browns at the end of the game that gave the Pats a first and goal. The FAKE pass interference call on the Vikings when the Ravens player tripped on his own that negated a game ending INT for the Vikings with little time left. I heard there were a few more but probably not as big as these two. I think this year's referees have been some of the worst I've ever seen. The roughing the passer call on Flowers earlier this year when he brushed feet with the QB was so bad. I think the NFL has a problem developing because it's getting worse, not better. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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