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Old 08-10-2012, 09:14 PM  
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Thoughts on Pre-Season Game #1
Well, how would you break it down?
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:00 AM   #781
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Worked for San Fran. Our offense should dwarf theirs.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:00 AM   #782
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This league doesn't work that way anymore.

Not against good teams.
Bullshit.

See the SF 49ers of 2011. One fumbled punt from the Super Bowl.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:02 AM   #783
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Really? So Gannon was the same guy in KC as he was in Gruden's system in Oakland?

I'm not stating that Cassel WILL become Gannon 2.0, I'm suggesting that maybe, just maybe, he can.
Ok, I understand. Yes, Gannon changed. He did however, display several of the traits I listed during his time in KC. Yes, maybe Cassel can. Maybe he'll live up to his 60M contract and Kenny Powers commercials. I doubt it.

Do I doubt that he can't be the QB of a Chiefs team that goes anywhere from 7-9 to 10-6 or 11-5? No. The way this team is built, there is no reason he shouldn't have some success.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:03 AM   #784
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Honestly, QB aside. What offense in the NFL is as versatile as the 2012 Chiefs should be?
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:04 AM   #785
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Bullshit.

See the SF 49ers of 2011. One fumbled punt from the Super Bowl.
He did beat a 49ers team that was without Harbaugh, Bowman, and several others. Yes the majority of the team is intact, but it is a very different team in regards to discipline and maturity.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:05 AM   #786
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Any QB with this talent should put up solid numbers and at the very least look average.

I think Cassel puts up numbers similar to the 2010 Cassel. With a few more INTs though.

Anything less is underachieving and not acceptable.


Speaking of the 49ers. I see this team as VERY similar to that 49er team last year. Defense might not be that good, but the offense is a tad better than theirs.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:06 AM   #787
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Honestly, QB aside. What offense in the NFL is as versatile as the 2012 Chiefs should be?
NO is the only team in terms of overall completeness that comes to mind at the moment. NE I suppose, but their running game is lacking compared to ours, even if Ridley/Veeren step up.
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Bullshit.

See the SF 49ers of 2011. One fumbled punt from the Super Bowl.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:08 AM   #789
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Honestly, QB aside. What offense in the NFL is as versatile as the 2012 Chiefs should be?
None.

Hence the optimism...

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Ok, I understand. Yes, Gannon changed. He did however, display several of the traits I listed during his time in KC. Yes, maybe Cassel can. Maybe he'll live up to his 60M contract and Kenny Powers commercials. I doubt it.

Do I doubt that he can't be the QB of a Chiefs team that goes anywhere from 7-9 to 10-6 or 11-5? No. The way this team is built, there is no reason he shouldn't have some success.
Do I wish that the Chiefs had a true Franchise QB? Absolutely. But do I think that great play calling and coaching can make Cassel look average or slightly above? Absolutely.

Is this the right staff? Only time will tell.
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If you're saying we're gonna be the 49ers this year, you're basically saying we have one of the best defenses in football.

I can buy that.

I wouldn't try to sell it though...
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NO is the only team in terms of overall completeness that comes to mind at the moment. NE I suppose, but their running game is lacking compared to ours, even if Ridley/Veeren step up.
Their receivers outside of Welker don't do not for me either. Lloyd is good, but will he produce? TE's and QB rock though.
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Honestly, QB aside. What offense in the NFL is as versatile as the 2012 Chiefs should be?
You can't leave out QB though.

Cassel takes what should be a versatile attack and neuters the downfield passing game, and makes the running game worse because defenses can cheat up.

He's truly a bastard.
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He did beat a 49ers team that was without Harbaugh, Bowman, and several others. Yes the majority of the team is intact, but it is a very different team in regards to discipline and maturity.
Come on, the 2011 49ers team was completely different from the 2010 team.

Singletary was a complete joke.
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Do I wish that the Chiefs had a true Franchise QB? Absolutely. But do I think that great play calling and coaching can make Cassel look average or slightly above? Absolutely.

Is this the right staff? Only time will tell.
Definitely. The issue is, Gannon was a Franchise QB at that time. Cassel, most likely will not be. Definitely agree that he should look average or above at times with this team this year.
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