*.* NEW- 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

I guess we filled up the old one... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280149

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[ThaVirus]

They're talking about testosterone, not steroids.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It is when you are juicing to do it, no?

I mean, the whole purpose of going to the gym is to feel and look better, right?

So what are the steroids for?

I still don't understand who is being cheated or why you care what someone else is putting in their body if doesnt effect you. These guys arent knocking up a 7 eleven to cover that $50 cost for 10 weeks of their testosterone.

[BigCatDaddy]

I guess someone suffering from hypothyroidism is cheating by taking synthroid to lose weight?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I guess someone suffering from hypothyroidism is cheating by taking synthroid to lose weight?

Nope.

A medical condition is one thing. Faking/inducing low testosterone levels so you can gear up is different.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Nope.

A medical condition is one thing. Faking/inducing low testosterone levels so you can gear up is different.

Still don't get why anyone would care. Are you jealous of guys you suspect use?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This is true also. Lots of issues and potential issues linked to low T including depression. There are a lot of guys in TRT that never touch a weight.

Yup. Low test is bad. Keeping it up keeps you young.

[CaliforniaChief]

Just got back from the Midwest...I completed RAGBRAI, including the 100 mile day, with ancillary riding, giving me 515 miles on the bike in 7 days. It was what I've been training for and was my goal in losing weight.

Down to 238 from my high of 420, and looking for my next goal to train for. Just an amazing week.

I'm less in awe of me than I am the people who drink all day long and night and manage to bike that many miles across Iowa, honestly. Wow!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Still don't get why anyone would care. Are you jealous of guys you suspect use?

To be honest, a little.

Douchebags who aren't lifting for shit in terms of form are still jacked the **** up, guys lollygagging around the gym yoked, etc.

Yeah, you can tell which guys are being pussies and aren't putting in the real work to look that way and yeah, I'm a bit jealous that they can look like that because they are on the gear versus completely busting their ass.

You can put on 10 lbs. of muscle without doing a single thing on gear. Don't have to lift at all and you'll still add muscle. Yeah, that's being a pussy cheater in my book.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

To be honest, a little.

Douchebags who aren't lifting for shit in terms of form are still jacked the **** up, guys lollygagging around the gym yoked, etc.

Yeah, you can tell which guys are being pussies and aren't putting in the real work to look that way and yeah, I'm a bit jealous that they can look like that because they are on the gear versus completely busting their ass.

You can put on 10 lbs. of muscle without doing a single thing on gear. Don't have to lift at all and you'll still add muscle. Yeah, that's being a pussy cheater in my book.

Dont see many of those. I see guys that lifted for years hit that plateu and then decided to take it to another level. Guys looking for short cuts from the start rarely last and become lifers.

[Saccopoo]

Goddammit! I ****ing hate you guys.

So, pros and cons of TRT.

Go.

[Simply Red]

been working w/ a trainer for about 5 weeks now - 2 times per week - plus bootcamp - additionally working out on my own another 2 times per week.

It's been so long I don't know where to start, but I've gained an inch in my chest - lost an inch on my waist. Also I've increased my bench by 40#'s or so, which I was surprised (more than anything)

Doing well in that regard. Just trying to figure out what people 42 do in their spare time when they're single. It's a pretty awkward age socially, for me at least.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Goddammit! I ****ing hate you guys.

So, pros and cons of TRT.

Go.

Pros. I just put up 365lbs on bench being 6-2 210 lbs. Probably pushing 375-380 if i took an extra week off and didnt do a few sets first.

Pros- Every where I go people stare and admire. Cons- everywhere I go people stare and admire.

Pros- sex drive of a teenager. Cons- wife cant keep up.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

been working w/ a trainer for about 5 weeks now - 2 times per week - plus bootcamp - additionally working out on my own another 2 times per week.

It's been so long I don't know where to start, but I've gained an inch in my chest - lost an inch on my waist. Also I've increased my bench by 40#'s or so, which I was surprised (more than anything)

Doing well in that regard. Just trying to figure out what people 42 do in their spare time when they're single. It's a pretty awkward age socially, for me at least.

Excellent work - I'm very proud of you!

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Excellent work - I'm very proud of you!

TY SOOOO MUCH, OMG!!

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Goddammit! I ****ing hate you guys.

So, pros and cons of TRT.

Go.

check this out. http://www.dangerandplay.com/2013/11...t-therapy-trt/


Your comparing guys on TRT (this thread) to guys at your gym running multiple compounds. TRT is meant to bring you into the upper range of your natural test production limit, hence the replacement part. Now the guys taking upwards of a gram a week, with additional anabolic/androgenic compounds, are going to LOSE a lot of that weight because your body NEEDS the elevated hormone levels to hold on to all that muscle.

depending on how low you are, 100-300mg/week will get you into the upper range of natural limits. If you are ALREADY at a high level, and you take a TRT level does, your body STOPS producing test, and you have to replace exogenously.

So I played around with this shit a LOT in college playing football, and I offer one very important piece of advice to ANYONE who wants to supplement with this stuff. One you go on, your on for life. Anyone built like a brick shithouse will tell you the same thing. Once you come off, your hormone levels drop, and you will lose a good amount of that size/strength.

I see all these posts from kids like "how do I keep mah gainzz" after cycle.. you dont. You stay on, also known as "blast and cruise".

Anyway the PROS of TRT/HRT:
Reduce fat and increase muscle
Improve your concentration
Maintain sleep and feel more rested
Maintain bone density/strength
Increase strength and athletic performance
Improve mood
Improve insulin sensitivity
Improve erectile function
Heighten your motivation
Increase your sense of well-being
possibly REDUCE risk of cardiovascular disease

CONS
frequent doctor visits early on to get estrogen levels balanced out
insurance may not cover all of the price

Not sure how old you are Sacc, but I turned 36 this year and have been on TRT since 32. Conceived two beautiful little girls while 'on' too so dont think it messes with fertility issues. I'm not the biggest dude in the gym, but got pretty big when I was focusing on competing in powerlifting a couple years back. Now I am dabbling in the bodybuilding side and enjoying it more than powerlifting (sorry lewdog).