Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Bufkin]

And this was all created because many posters have rightfully labeled Tony Romo trash in the postseason.

Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC championship rings. Of those 3 Super Bowls, he was MVP for 2 of them. He's also a 2 time MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Romo does not have one of these accomplishments.

It's genuinely a HUGE disservice to your argument when you trot out the greatest QB of all time.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

And this was all created because many posters have rightfully labeled Tony Romo trash in the postseason.

Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC championship rings. Of those 3 Super Bowls, he was MVP for 2 of them. He's also a 2 time MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Romo does not have one of these accomplishments.

It's genuinely a HUGE disservice to your argument when you trot out the greatest QB of all time.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

And this was all created because many posters have rightfully labeled Tony Romo trash in the postseason.

Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC championship rings. Of those 3 Super Bowls, he was MVP for 2 of them. He's also a 2 time MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Romo does not have one of these accomplishments.

It's genuinely a HUGE disservice to your argument when you trot out the greatest QB of all time.

all thanks to this guy

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

And this was all created because many posters have rightfully labeled Tony Romo trash in the postseason.

Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowl rings and 5 AFC championship rings. Of those 3 Super Bowls, he was MVP for 2 of them. He's also a 2 time MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Romo does not have one of these accomplishments.

It's genuinely a HUGE disservice to your argument when you trot out the greatest QB of all time.

Joe Montana?

[RealSNR]

[Hootie]

Some key stats:

In these 8 playoff losses, they were favored in 6 of 8 (losing both underdog games to Peyton "choker" Manning). The Super Bowl loss in 2007 was a 13.5 point favorite. The Jets game was a 13 point favorite. The Ravens game was 8.5 (Flacco rookie year).

These are major upsets. Like. You see once or twice a year upsets.

Also, his 4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR in the postseason are both lower than the ... GET THIS ... 11.8 QBR Tim Tebow put up against Tom Brady in their 10-45 defeat in that postseason.

So think about Tim Tebow.

Think about that 11.8 performance.

And realize, in back to back years, in back to back games, Tom Brady lost heavily favored home game in the postseason to Mark Sanchez (4.2 QBR) and Joe Flacco (8.7 QBR).

Those are individual losses.

It's truly pathetic.

[Titty Meat]

Hooties football takes have been awful this year.

[Hootie]

No, this is absolute proof that this board, and the media, and everyone else has no idea what clutch QB play is.

Because many think Tom Brady is the clutchest QB ever.

And it took me 15 minutes to disprove that.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, this is absolute proof that this board, and the media, and everyone else has no idea what clutch QB play is.

Because many think Tom Brady is the clutchest QB ever.

And it took me 15 minutes to disprove that.

And about ten seconds for me to prove what a complete tool you are.

Most playoff wins EVAH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

Most division titles EVAH:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/...ivision-titles

Tied, most conference championship games played EVAH (with some schmuck named Joe Montana):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Tied, most conference championships won EVAH (with some schlemiel named John Elway):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Highest winning percentage of ANY NFL QB EVAH (need to use the sorting function):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_quarterback


Have fun with the rest of your sucktastic thread.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

And about ten seconds for me to prove what a complete tool you are.

Most playoff wins EVAH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

Most division titles EVAH:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/...ivision-titles

Tied, most conference championship games played EVAH (with some schmuck named Joe Montana):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Tied, most conference championships won EVAH (with some schlemiel named John Elway):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Highest winning percentage of ANY NFL QB EVAH (need to use the sorting function):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_quarterback


Have fun with the rest of your sucktastic thread.

The PATRIOTS are a great team. Brady has NEVER been a clutch QB. Please respond DIRECTLY to this post and also explain his 4.2 QBR @ home against the Jets and his 8.7 QBR @ home against the Ravens the very next game the very next postseason.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS. I AM TIRED OF YOU HIDING FROM HIS CHOKE JOB PERFORMANCES:

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

The PATRIOTS are a great team. Brady has NEVER been a clutch QB. Please respond DIRECTLY to this post and also explain his 4.2 QBR @ home against the Jets and his 8.7 QBR @ home against the Ravens the very next game the very next postseason.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS. I AM TIRED OF YOU HIDING FROM HIS CHOKE JOB PERFORMANCES:

I'm not ignoring this. I'm pointing out that your pathetic, cherry picked-stat argument is pathetic. There's really no other answer that is required. Seriously.

[Bufkin]

3 Super Bowl Rings.

5 AFC Championship Rings.

2 Super Bowl MVP's.

compare that to:

18 hilarious gifs of Tony Romo ending the season for the Dallas Cowboys.

GTFO

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Bufkin

3 Super Bowl Rings.

5 AFC Championship Rings.

2 Super Bowl MVP's.

compare that to:

18 hilarious gifs of Tony Romo ending the season for the Dallas Cowboys.

GTFO

...10 years of postseason ineptitude

while the board says Russell Wilson is slightly above average

even though he is exactly what Tom Brady was to his team during their 3 Super Bowls in 4 years

...I won this thread before I even hit 'submit'

[Don Corlemahomes]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

...I won this thread before I even hit 'submit'

This is so apropos: