Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 119

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

In58men · 11-07-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

My first 10 years in the military was very painful, little toes hurt like hell. Like a flaming spear was being drove into them. Got off active duty, 9 years later in 2001 I was with a chick in Pittsburg, KS. She hooked me up with a foot doctor (been to about 20 foot doctors specialist before this dude). This dude found bone spurs, cut them out, rotated my little toes. I have been pain free since then. Never knew life could be so good. EB needs to hook up with that chick in Pittsburg, KS so can take him to that foot doctor and get fixed.

According to CP nothing can hurt that long. I believe the doctors here, you’re got damn liar.

Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Did you instantly go back to playing at an NFL all-pro level?
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No, but the military did call me back in 2007. I chose the National Guard. Got my 20 years in last month. Did a 15 month tour in Taji, Iraq 2010 - 2012, saw some combat. Got a combat action badge. I wasn’t lucky enough to have guardians that let me play a game after I turned 16 and had a license I had to get to work. But did get to enjoy being roughed up by the varsity my freshman and sophomore years.

OKchiefs · 11-07-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

Berry and the team realize that with this injury and with his lack of durability the past few years that it is the best course of action to save him for the most important part of the season, which is the playoffs. Going in to the season they sat down with him to go over how he was doing and they figured there was no way he could last a full season so they are letting him rest it and will bring him back into the fold later in the season so that they can ensure he is available during the postseason. They will bring him back during the bye week and slowly adjust his playing time the rest of the way so that he’s as close to 100% as possible going into the postseason.

That's all fine and dandy until you realize that them not putting him on IR means they never planned on him missing most of the season.

ModSocks · 11-07-2018, 10:20 AM

Today's the day boys! Grab your popcorn and nachos because a deformity is about to get un-deformity'd.

**loochy** · 11-07-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Today's the day boys! Grab your popcorn and nachos because a deformity is about to get un-deformity'd.

once a deformity always a deformity
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Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 11:27 AM

Pic of deformity?

htismaqe · 11-07-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

Berry and the team realize that with this injury and with his lack of durability the past few years that it is the best course of action to save him for the most important part of the season, which is the playoffs. Going in to the season they sat down with him to go over how he was doing and they figured there was no way he could last a full season so they are letting him rest it and will bring him back into the fold later in the season so that they can ensure he is available during the postseason. They will bring him back during the bye week and slowly adjust his playing time the rest of the way so that he’s as close to 100% as possible going into the postseason.

If the Chiefs knew all along that he was going to be out this long, they would have put him on IR, just like Sorenson.

**loochy** · 11-07-2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

Pic of deformity?

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Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 11:33 AM

^ He has that on his ankle? That would be ouch.

ModSocks · 11-07-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

^ He has that on his ankle? That would be ouch.

philfree · 11-07-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If the Chiefs knew all along that he was going to be out this long, they would have put him on IR, just like Sorenson.

If he was on IR at week 6 he could start practicing with a two week window to be activated. Our bye falls after that so I wonder if that played into the thinking to just keep him on the roster.

OKchiefs · 11-07-2018, 11:53 AM

Still not practicing. And Morse's concussion continues to keep him out. Wonderful. Hitchens, Erving, and Watkins also out. My God, this team is a ****ing trauma ward.

O.city · 11-07-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Still not practicing. And Morse's concussion continues to keep him out. Wonderful. Hitchens, Erving, and Watkins also out. My God, this team is a ****ing trauma ward.

Otherwise known as, week 9 in the NFL.

They haven't had their bye yet, this is what you get.

Flying High D · 11-07-2018, 11:56 AM

Berry starting a revolution.

**penguinz** · 11-07-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Still not practicing. And Morse's concussion continues to keep him out. Wonderful. Hitchens, Erving, and Watkins also out. My God, this team is a ****ing trauma ward.

Erving has flu. Overreact much?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1796899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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