Organic food is a lie

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Early Death for the win! Give me some horrible disease and let me die early from it! yay! I mean why not pay millions for surgeries to keep my dumb ass alive?

I won't have to spend shit for surgeries, I have a remarkable new Heath care plan starting in a few months that I'm forced to take! Yaaaaay!

[InChiefsHeaven]

I've been a fence rider on this stuff for a few years now. On the one hand, it does seem to make sense that "naturally grown" foods are better for you. We have so many instances of weird illnesses, cancer, etc that it seems to make sense that it's coming from the food supply. BUT...we are living much longer now than ever before, and the problems we used to have (mentioned in the video) are not nearly as prominent. We now have other shit killing us...

I dunno. I do think health is more about activity and moderation than it is about organic foods versus whatever else. I do think that there are healthier choices that can be made with what you buy, organic or not. Mostly, you gotta stop eating so much crap food and get off your ass and do something. Then, you'll mostly be OK.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Mostly, you gotta stop eating so much crap food and get off your ass and do something. Then, you'll mostly be OK.

It cracks me up that our local health food market is chock full of organic junk food. Stuff like Pop Tarts, sugar cereal and chips. Junk food is junk food, even if it contains "organic cane juice" instead of HFCS.

[blaise]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It cracks me up that our local health food market is chock full of organic junk food. Stuff like Pop Tarts, sugar cereal and chips. Junk food is junk food, even if it contains "organic cane juice" instead of HFCS.

That's true, but sometimes you just accept that you're going to buy something like chips and you try and get the one that's the best. There's levels of how bad it can be. Wasn't too long ago that tons of the foods had trans fat in them.

[InChiefsHeaven]

On a side note, I'm Catholic, but I think Penn and Teller are hilarious.

[WhiteWhale]

Most of the world already IS starving.

[blaise]

I think it's too simple to say organic isn't worthwhile. Some products I'd rather by organic, some it doesn't matter too much.
Probably better to focus on eating foods that are less processed.

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by blaise

I think it's too simple to say organic isn't worthwhile. Some products I'd rather by organic, some it doesn't matter too much.
Probably better to focus on eating foods that are less processed.

Nail meet head.

I've been on a whole food "paleo" diet for close to a year now and the changes have been rather remarkable.

Even the people that push this diet say that organics aren't required from a health stand point. It's the produce that's is fully exposed to pesticides and chemical fertilizers that I try to buy organic (lettuce, broccoli...). Everything is usually non-organic.

The real large scale organic argument seems to be more environmental and for worker safety. Pesticides killing off bees, chemical fertilizers ruining top soil...

For me the most important part of the diet is pasture raised meat. Grass fed cows, chickens that get to run around and eat bugs, pigs rooting around in the sun. And also eating nose to tail. I've incorporated liver, kidney, heart, brains and sweet breads into my diet.

I just avoid the center of the store. Produce, nut/seed bins, dairy, butcher, adios.

My recent physical is pretty much all I need justify this approach. I used to think that exercise was the most important piece for overall health but I now believe that it's 75% diet and 25% exercise.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Enjoy your Candida.

[Frosty]

BTW, here is an interesting paper published by a couple of scientists from Berkley:

Pesticide Residues in Food and Cancer Risk: A Critical Analysis

http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cpdb/text/...toxicology.pdf

An interesting quote from the paper:

We estimate that about 99.9% of the chemicals that humans
ingest are naturally occurring. The amounts of synthetic pesticide
residues in plant foods are low in comparison to the amount
of natural pesticides produced by plants themselves (Ames et
al., 1990a, b; Gold et al., 1997a). Of all dietary pesticides that
Americans eat, 99.99% are natural: They are the chemicals produced
by plants to defend themselves against fungi, insects, and
other animal predators. Each plant produces a different array of
such chemicals (Ames et al., 1990a, b).

[LiveSteam]

I grow organic planets. Then I smoke them

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

I grow organic planets. Then I smoke them

You stole the Genesis device?

KHAN!

[NewChief]

I know when I'm looking for convincing arguments on weighty issues, I turn to a comedic duo consisting of a cynical giant and a mute dwarf.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by NewChief

I know when I'm looking for convincing arguments on weighty issues, I turn to a comedic duo consisting of a cynical giant and a mute dwarf.

yeah, man. they make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE! let's just ignore them because of who they are!

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

yeah, man. they make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE! let's just ignore them because of who they are!

I ignore them because of who funds them. I just think it's humorous that those corporate backers chose that duo to communicate their message.