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Old 07-06-2015, 01:37 PM  
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The Espy's Arther Ashe Award "Courage"

Did I hear that right? That Bruce Jenner is going to be given the Arthur Ashe award for courage?


Are you really serious ESPN? What is courageous about this?
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:42 PM   #76
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:46 PM   #77
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After age 30-35???

Not a single bit; seriously. Who gives a damn what anyone else has to say about you, EXCEPT you, the ones you love, and your God...whatever that may be. Perhaps that's the problem though; other's opinions of "you" are THEIR God. If that's the case? I have Zero ability to relate to that...just sayin'.
Maybe some people that she does love have had negative reactions to what she's doing. We don't know that. But that's a risk she was taking. Have you ever had to make a decision that might alienate a lot of your loved ones, but you felt you needed to do it anyways because it's what was right for you at the time? I bet it would be a tough decision to make knowing you might lose those loved ones in the process. We don't know what she's going through on a daily basis, but I bet she's had some terribly rough days due to the process.

I just don't understand how anyone can't see how a major life change of any form takes some courage.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:48 PM   #78
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I didn't intend to write a damn book on all the ways to be courageous. Eric Berry's fight with cancer comes to mind given it needs to be an athlete. Becoming a drag queen is not courageous.

(At the risk of sounding insensitive) Does fighting cancer make you courageous? It's not like there's really much choice. You fight it or you die.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:51 PM   #79
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I really shouldn't have said that
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:51 PM   #80
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Mental health is this country is so ****ed.
The country is going to shit. Better clutch that shotgun tight, old man.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:57 PM   #81
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(At the risk of sounding insensitive) Does fighting cancer make you courageous? It's not like there's really much choice. You fight it or you die.
As one who has cancer, I am not offended. I can die even though I am fighting it with all I have. I believe my true battle is not to survive, but to be okay with God's plan for me either way, live or die. That takes faith and strength, but I don't feel any more courageous than I ever was.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:04 AM   #82
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(At the risk of sounding insensitive) Does fighting cancer make you courageous? It's not like there's really much choice. You fight it or you die.
This! I always thought that the "courageous" adjective was a bit misplaced. Sure, it's a terrible and unforunate situation but it's not like a cancer patient voluntarily takes on the cancer for some higher purpose. It's just a crappy situation that is forced on an individual and loved ones. Nobody wants that and nobody has any choice in the matter. Maybe "strong" or "tenacious" or "upbeat" or "enthusiastic" might be better descriptions.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:06 AM   #83
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So, why isn't Bruce "courageous" enough to admit he's gay? Or to actually cut his dick off? Because he's not courageous. He's a washed up dumb **** who is doing everything he can to hold on to his rapidly fading limelight.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:14 AM   #84
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The ABC special he did? The Vanity Fair cover?

Attention Whoring at it's finest.
At that point the speculation and rumors were running rampant. Should you not address that as a person or just let them go?
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:37 AM   #85
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At that point the speculation and rumors were running rampant. Should you not address that as a person or just let them go?
Why is it anybody's business other than his own and his family?
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:38 AM   #86
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Why is it anybody's business other than his own and his family?
You don't make money off of your family (well, he might though)
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:41 AM   #87
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This! I always thought that the "courageous" adjective was a bit misplaced. Sure, it's a terrible and unforunate situation but it's not like a cancer patient voluntarily takes on the cancer for some higher purpose. It's just a crappy situation that is forced on an individual and loved ones. Nobody wants that and nobody has any choice in the matter. Maybe "strong" or "tenacious" or "upbeat" or "enthusiastic" might be better descriptions.
Because being a transgender or gay isn't a potentially deadly disease.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:45 AM   #88
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(At the risk of sounding insensitive) Does fighting cancer make you courageous? It's not like there's really much choice. You fight it or you die.
Heh, this was an awful thing to post, but I wager you already know this now.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:51 AM   #89
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Courage is a firefighter running into a burning building to save the life of a child. Courage is a soldier putting himself into the line of fire.

This crap is a life decision that in no way, shape, or form is courageous.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:56 AM   #90
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So, why isn't Bruce "courageous" enough to admit he's gay? Or to actually cut his dick off? Because he's not courageous. He's a washed up dumb **** who is doing everything he can to hold on to his rapidly fading limelight.
I'm not sure what would make him gay at this point
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