Andy Reid on Mike & Mike

[ChiefRocka]

Sorry if repost...

You definitely can hear real excitement in his voice. When asked about the QB situation he said he needs to first evaluate the talent on offense and determine the best path forward for the current "very young" players. Young guys have seen nothing consistent on offense during their short careers. At that time, he will determine whether to draft, trade for, acquire his QB. Says he loves Mike Vick as a person and as a football player.

My gut says hes absolutely coming here, just dont know in what role. I would be OK with it as long as we draft a QB at #1.

[supaboy]

Originally Posted by EagleRob

Andy stresses taking care of the football. Vick didn't take care of the football - Poor O-line or not. Reid praising someone is more about compassion and personality characteristics than skills. He will also call someone "a heck of a football player" or "a heck of a (fill in the blank)". If that statement comes from Reid it may sound positive but has a negative connotation. Jeff Lurie was a heck of an owner. Scott ***** was a heck of a GM. Mick Vick was a heck of a QB. You may as well replace "heck" with "hack". Now that you know that verbal transformation, listen with a different ear when he says it. It's a bigger thing when he chuckles while saying it. "We've got a heck of a level talent at our QB position with the guys already here (heh heh)". I'm shocked he gets away with it and people still see it as either being genuinely complimentary or acrimonious.

Bro Vick was not the problem on our team.The entire Oline was injured,players were half assin it,not makin plays,givin up on routes. We have one of the softest recieving cores i have ever seen in my life.They get hurt if you sneeze on them and will allow a pass to be intercepted because they are afraid of taking a hit. Every qb throws interceptions. Limiting is what counts. In 2010 Vick had the fewest interceptions in the league. Because he trusted his protection. You do realize he didnt have back ups on his line,but 4th stringers this season dont you? You do realize Nick Foles broke his hand and couldnt play the last game dont you with that same horrid Oline.

Brady,Manning,Nor Rodgers couldve played behind that joke of line. We also changed our blocking scheme and changed Oline coaches which hurt Vick tremendously. With Howard Mudds blocking scheme there were reallly no holes or lanes for Vick to run vs Castillo's scheme with big lineman that we had in 2010 that opened up big holes for Vick when things broke down. Mudd also likes to use under sized athletic Lineman. Problem with that is Dlineman ran through them all the time.

Bowe and Vick would do damage. Mark my words,if the Chiefs sign Bowe,who is a real reciever and not a one hit wonder like Desean. Vick and Bowe will break a record. I would even go as far as to say Bowe would want to stay if you guys brought in Vick.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by supaboy

Bro Vick was not the problem on our team.The entire Oline was injured,players were half assin it,not makin plays,givin up on routes. We have one of the softest recieving cores i have ever seen in my life.They get hurt if you sneeze on them and will allow a pass to be intercepted because they are afraid of taking a hit. Every qb throws interceptions. Limiting is what counts. In 2010 Vick had the fewest interceptions in the league. Because he trusted his protection. You do realize he didnt have back ups on his line,but 4th stringers this season dont you? You do realize Nick Foles broke his hand and couldnt play the last game dont you with that same horrid Oline.

Brady,Manning,Nor Rodgers couldve played behind that joke of line. We also changed our blocking scheme and changed Oline coaches which hurt Vick tremendously. With Howard Mudds blocking scheme there were reallly no holes or lanes for Vick to run vs Castillo's scheme with big lineman that we had in 2010 that opened up big holes for Vick when things broke down. Mudd also likes to use under sized athletic Lineman. Problem with that is Dlineman ran through them all the time.

One of my Philly buddies blamed the O-line for a lot of the problems. The couple of games I saw this year it was pretty apparent that the Philly O-line was leaking like a sieve.

[Chris Meck]

That'll be the end of my being a Chiefs fan if that comes to pass. I really hope it doesn't.

I don't care if he paid his dues-and I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to play, or have a life going forward but I will not cheer for him. The man taught dogs to kill each other and then electrocuted them when they lost. He's real sorry....that he got caught. There's a cruelty there that a couple of years in the slammer don't erase. If he comes, I'll find another team after 30 years of being a fan.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Fans may not be thrilled with having Vick on the team. The drafted QB/s might have a far different and really more important view of him. The man did the crime and did the rare thing for a high profile athelete. He did the time.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

Fans may not be thrilled with having Vick on the team. The drafted QB/s might have a far different and really more important view of him. The man did the crime and did the rare thing for a high profile athelete. He did the time.

That's my take. With the kind of offense we are headed to, he'd be a great mentor and asset for our drafted QB.

[Cannibal]

Reid needs to move on.

Both the Chiefs and Reid need a fresh start, brining in Vick would be clinging to the past.

Forget about Vick please.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by supaboy

Bro Vick was not the problem on our team.The entire Oline was injured,players were half assin it,not makin plays,givin up on routes. We have one of the softest recieving cores i have ever seen in my life.They get hurt if you sneeze on them and will allow a pass to be intercepted because they are afraid of taking a hit. Every qb throws interceptions. Limiting is what counts. In 2010 Vick had the fewest interceptions in the league. Because he trusted his protection. You do realize he didnt have back ups on his line,but 4th stringers this season dont you? You do realize Nick Foles broke his hand and couldnt play the last game dont you with that same horrid Oline.

Brady,Manning,Nor Rodgers couldve played behind that joke of line. We also changed our blocking scheme and changed Oline coaches which hurt Vick tremendously. With Howard Mudds blocking scheme there were reallly no holes or lanes for Vick to run vs Castillo's scheme with big lineman that we had in 2010 that opened up big holes for Vick when things broke down. Mudd also likes to use under sized athletic Lineman. Problem with that is Dlineman ran through them all the time.

Bowe and Vick would do damage. Mark my words,if the Chiefs sign Bowe,who is a real reciever and not a one hit wonder like Desean. Vick and Bowe will break a record. I would even go as far as to say Bowe would want to stay if you guys brought in Vick.

It doesn't matter if Vick was any good or not for Philly I really dont give a ****. Most of us are just sick and tired of the retread rehash QB that this organization force down our throughts. Mike Vick fits that mold. **** him do not want.

If we draft Geno Smith to be our guy then I wouldn't have much of a problem with having Mike Vick as back up, but also don't want the drama that he tends to have. He has come a long way to turn himself around that is fine. I don't want a young QB to have to worry about being benched if he ****s up though.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If we draft Geno Smith to be our guy then I wouldn't have much of a problem with having Mike Vick as back up, but also don't want the drama that he tends to have. He has come a long way to turn himself around that is fine. I don't want a young QB to have to worry about being benched if he ****s up though.

If we draft a QB at #1, he WILL start. Period. I think Vick would see field time only due to injury( please God no ).

[Chris Meck]

I don't think Clark would be too hip to having Vick here. I think he's sensitive to the bad PR that Pioli caused and wouldn't want to start out with a problem right out of the gate. Vick would be a problem for a lot of people, not just me. What's the point? He's not the answer anyway, so let's just not go there.

Let's hope that's the plan.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I don't think Clark would be too hip to having Vick here. I think he's sensitive to the bad PR that ***** caused and wouldn't want to start out with a problem right out of the gate. Vick would be a problem for a lot of people, not just me. What's the point? He's not the answer anyway, so let's just not go there.

Let's hope that's the plan.

this

[SAUTO]

and FTR i wouldnt have a problem with vick if he was good

[supaboy]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

It doesn't matter if Vick was any good or not for Philly I really dont give a ****. Most of us are just sick and tired of the retread rehash QB that this organization force down our throughts. Mike Vick fits that mold. **** him do not want.

If we draft Geno Smith to be our guy then I wouldn't have much of a problem with having Mike Vick as back up, but also don't want the drama that he tends to have. He has come a long way to turn himself around that is fine. I don't want a young QB to have to worry about being benched if he ****s up though.

Lol taking a rookie over Vick is ludicrous. Who's to say that Geno will be the next Rg3 or Andrew Luck?In my opinion this years draft class is nowhere as good as the last. Lets say you take a chance on Geno and he's not the answer,then youre back in the same boat as you started with no qb and another losing season. Atleast you know Vick can win games. Also as long as ive known Andy he has never let a rookie start a season. Mcnabb didnt do it,neither did Foles.

Andy is the type of coach that will let the rookie sit and learn unless his starter is just screwing up badly where he has no choice. The only reason Foles got to start was because Vick got hurt and Andy was worried about the beating he was taking and knew that he and Vick would be gone at the end of the season anyways,so why risk Vicks health when he knew that theyd probably be on another team together.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The Bengals could probably use Vick. Just him being on the team might make the players think twice before getting into trouble.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and FTR i wouldnt have a problem with vick if he was good

This.

[bevischief]

At this point I take just about anything that leads to winning. If the coaching staff thinks that's Vick so be it. Clark cleaned house and I will them a few seasons before calling for any heads.