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Old 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM  
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Russell Wilson

Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much?

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Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out.

Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist.

Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw.

Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second.

On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield.

Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:52 PM   #61
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There's no better interview on Gruden's QB camp this year than Cousins.

Not saying I want him in Red & Gold, but facts are facts.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:54 PM   #62
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I didn't watch the interview, I did see him throwing and it wasn't pretty.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:56 PM   #63
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For me, Qbs in the NFL have to be exceptional at something to survive. Not good, but top shelf great.


Manning is smart and accurate. Brady has the same things with a little more arm strength. Rodgers has a cannon. Stafford has a mega cannon. Cam has talent oozing out of everywhere.


I don't see that with most of these smart qbs. I guess they bring smarts, which by all means is great but it's tough to get by on that alone.
This guy had the highest QB rating in the NCAA, and the highest TD to INT percentage. He's got a great arm and known to be deadly accurate. He's a little more than just cerebral.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:58 PM   #64
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He's short with not alot of arm strength that succeeded in a run heavy offense. I'm thinking you need to take the homer glasses off.



To me, he seems like a more athletic Chase Daniel.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #65
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He's short with not alot of arm strength that succeeded in a run heavy offense. I'm thinking you need to take the homer glasses off.
I could care less about wisconsin. Every analisis of the guy says he has a cannon and can "flick" the ball 50 yards on a scramble. Second only to RG3 in this draft.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:08 PM   #66
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He doesn't have a bad arm, but it's no Stafford. Of course, not many guys have those types of arms.


I just don't see him as being anything more than a backup.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:10 PM   #67
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From what I've seen of the Cousins interview, it wasn't nearly as good as Wilson's. And I think O City is crazy if he thinks he lacks arm strength. He routinely chucks the ball 50 yards down field and hits receivers in stride. He also can put a ball on a rope. Further, he played behind one of the biggest lines in college football. The chiefs line is smaller. I think his high release and ability to see the field will mitigate shortness.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:13 PM   #68
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There's no better interview on Gruden's QB camp this year than Cousins.

Not saying I want him in Red & Gold, but facts are facts.
Eager to see all of it. Cousins still doesnt have the arm, decision making or accuracy of Wilson. Great guy though.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:15 PM   #69
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Wilson was a great college quarterback. Had a great year at Wisconsin. He played baseball in the minors iirc, he has a good arm. It's nothing really special.


He's 5 foot 10 though.


Again, I see him as a slightly more talented Chase Daniel or Troy Smith. I think he will make a good backup and possibly be a guy that starts someday.


But thats pretty unlikely.
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Cousins is gonna be an awesome back up QB that comes in and throws checkdowns to preserve the win.
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From what I've seen of the Cousins interview, it wasn't nearly as good as Wilson's. And I think O City is crazy if he thinks he lacks arm strength. He routinely chucks the ball 50 yards down field and hits receivers in stride. He also can put a ball on a rope. Further, he played behind one of the biggest lines in college football. The chiefs line is smaller. I think his high release and ability to see the field will mitigate shortness.
Exactly. Gruden was agreeing that seeing lanes, knowledge of what the defense is doing and anticipation are the keys to success.
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Exactly. Gruden was agreeing that seeing lanes, knowledge of what the defense is doing and anticipation are the keys to success.
Being 5'10 isn't.
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Wilson was a great college quarterback. Had a great year at Wisconsin. He played baseball in the minors iirc, he has a good arm. It's nothing really special.


He's 5 foot 10 though.


Again, I see him as a slightly more talented Chase Daniel or Troy Smith. I think he will make a good backup and possibly be a guy that starts someday.


But thats pretty unlikely.
Chase Daniels came from a pure spread system. Russell Wilson has mastered two pro-style systems in two years. Troy Smith threw with a 3/4 delivery and had a helluva windup. Troy Smith didn't read defenses, either. He just broke them down with his legs. This is why player comparisons are stupid. Evaluate each individual on his own merit.
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Being 5'10 isn't.
Not to split hairs, but 5' 10 7/8. Thats 1 1/8th shorter than Brees. pretty close to 5' 11
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Being 5'10 isn't.
Maybe I'm crazy, but "cant read defenses", "never ran a pro-offense" and "cant throw the ball 20 yards" are bigger issues.
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