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Old 11-30-2012, 12:22 AM   #1
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Gonna flip to a 4-3?

I don't see how even a conversion to a 1-gap would make Hali or Houston viable 3-4 DEs. Nor do I see Houston making the switch to TLB very well.

Are you ready to move on from Houston already? Replace Hali?

Seems to me like we have too many more pressing issues than OLB right now. That is, unless you switch to the 4-3 and move Hali back to the DE. If that's your plan, I can get behind that.
Just imagine Hali, Houston and another OLB (if not two more) coming at all times. No letting up on the gas. Pretty much like the Giants but with a 3-4 alignment.

It would be hell for an OC to gameplan on third down, especially as if you suggest, moving Hali to end in obvious passing situations. An attacking, pass rushing, monster defense.

It would be awesome.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:27 AM   #2
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Just imagine Hali, Houston and another OLB (if not two more) coming at all times. No letting up on the gas. Pretty much like the Giants but with a 3-4 alignment.

It would be hell for an OC to gameplan on third down, especially as if you suggest, moving Hali to end in obvious passing situations. An attacking, pass rushing, monster defense.

It would be awesome.
My draft idea last year (endorsed somewhat by Direckshun) was to draft Mercilus and work in a sub package of him, Hali, Houston, Bailey, and whoever.

If Bailey had panned out and we'd drafted Mercilus, that would have been awesome.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:28 AM   #3
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Just imagine Hali, Houston and another OLB (if not two more) coming at all times. No letting up on the gas. Pretty much like the Giants but with a 3-4 alignment.

It would be hell for an OC to gameplan on third down, especially as if you suggest, moving Hali to end in obvious passing situations. An attacking, pass rushing, monster defense.

It would be awesome.
Having a set of say Poe and beefier OLB with hands int he dirt and Hali, Houston and another pass rusher coming wouldn't be a bad thing.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:30 AM   #4
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Having a set of say Poe and beefier OLB with hands int he dirt and Hali, Houston and another pass rusher coming wouldn't be a bad thing.
It would rape faces.


That is what it would do.

People would bow to it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:34 AM   #5
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Having a set of say Poe and beefier OLB with hands int he dirt and Hali, Houston and another pass rusher coming wouldn't be a bad thing.
Having a completed secondary would be a better thing.

Get your meat and potatoes taken care of before you start dabbling in creme freche. There are just way WAY too many holes in the base packages on this team to start using virtual first rounders on sub players.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:32 AM   #6
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Just imagine Hali, Houston and another OLB (if not two more) coming at all times. No letting up on the gas. Pretty much like the Giants but with a 3-4 alignment.

It would be hell for an OC to gameplan on third down, especially as if you suggest, moving Hali to end in obvious passing situations. An attacking, pass rushing, monster defense.

It would be awesome.
So what you're really talking about is something similar to the Falcon.

You're running a 3-3 but with a DE acting as a standup linebacker (in this case, Hali). You could have him put his hand on the ground on occasion, but also drop him back off the line and into coverage (or off the line and still send a blitz to keep the opponent guessing).

I could see it as an interesting sub package, but not much more than that. It just doesn't work well in a 3-4 because you'd be incredibly susceptible to cut-back runs and/or anything off-tackle. Worse still, we're struggling to keep the seams and intermediate passing zones covered with multiple LBs in coverage; start blitzing 3 and you're going to get dink and dunked to death if you stick with the same 3-4 sets we've been running. There's just not enough beef in the line to dedicate 3 linebackers to pass-rush responsibilities on 1st and 2nd down.

If you can get a good pass rusher in the 3rd, go ahead - I'm comfortable using a 3rd for what I would only want to utilize as a sub package. But with the gaping holes at CB, safety and down-lineman that already exist, I just can't see using a higher pick than that on a sub player. That's what leads to you taking Javier Arenas or Dexter McCluster.
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