NFL Draft PFT: Chargers will work out Mariota - Page 2

Dante84 · 04-13-2015, 08:22 PM

On my phone, so no link. Suck it.

Will they really trade Rivers? I know there's been speculation.

Discus.

Mr. Laz · 04-14-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

I think they're going to have to give up more than that to get to #2.

Really?

You think that one of the better QB in the league and the 17th pick is not enough to get Mariota? I would think the Titans would jump at the chance to get a legit QB and still have a 1st round pick.

O.city · 04-14-2015, 10:42 AM

Rivers and 17 might do it, but rivers also needs a contract extension and is 33 years old

kcchiefsus · 04-14-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If he does pan out, they won't miss a beat, meanwhile we're in retread haven. I don't fault them for trying to get another model, franchise QB.

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**Baby Lee** · 04-14-2015, 07:20 PM

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Mile High Mania · 04-15-2015, 08:13 AM

If they trade Rivers, the team getting him will want a new deal (5 years likely) in place before any triggers are pulled.

Chargers could send Rivers, #17 and a 2016 R2 and that should do the trick for moving up 15 spots. The 'value' of that pick is 2600 points, #17 is like 950... wildcard is how do they value Rivers at 33 years old?

It's not impossible, but if they really want Mariota and move on... with the other teams, it could cost them a lot more. Just not sure if its worth it.

Mr. Laz · 04-15-2015, 10:27 AM

win/win for both teams IF Mariota works out

Chargers get huge cap relief and retool with a new QB
Titan finally get a proven QB to instill confidence to the entire team

of course if Mariota sucks then the Chargers are screwed
If Rivers won't sign an extension then the titans are screwed

**The Franchise** · 04-15-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Really?

You think that one of the better QB in the league and the 17th pick is not enough to get Mariota? I would think the Titans would jump at the chance to get a legit QB and still have a 1st round pick.

Normally I think it would be fine....but he's 33 and needs a new contract. Plus they Chargers will have to up their offer once the Browns get into a bidding war with them. And you can never count out Kelly and the Eagles as well.

Mile High Mania · 04-15-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

Normally I think it would be fine....but he's 33 and needs a new contract. Plus they Chargers will have to up their offer once the Browns get into a bidding war with them. And you can never count out Kelly and the Eagles as well.

Who knows if Mariota will work out or not, but ... what's the risk? The contract for the #2 pick for the next 4-5 years would be pretty ideal. 4 years, maybe 22M? Pretty low risk, you'll pay a lot more for Rivers the next 4 years and may not get any better. Start over.

**Bowser** · 04-15-2015, 02:19 PM

Mariota won't be ready this year, imo. Maybe I've just become jaded with these college QB's that put up insane numbers in school playing in those spread option offenses. One, maybe two reads, then run. Look no further than Manziel for proof (clearly Mariota is a highly quality person than Johnny Drinky and is clearly committed to his craft. Their results on the field is where the comparison stops with those two), or even RGIII.

TL;DR - The Chargers would be dumb to trade Rivers for the chance at Mariota, imo. Rivers could be a fringe HoF'er if he ever gets to the Super Bowl.

milkman · 04-15-2015, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Mariota won't be ready this year, imo. Maybe I've just become jaded with these college QB's that put up insane numbers in school playing in those spread option offenses. One, maybe two reads, then run. Look no further than Manziel for proof (clearly Mariota is a highly quality person than Johnny Drinky and is clearly committed to his craft. Their results on the field is where the comparison stops with those two), or even RGIII.

TL;DR - The Chargers would be dumb to trade Rivers for the chance at Mariota, imo. Rivers could be a fringe HoF'er if he ever gets to the Super Bowl.

I firmly believe that the QB bust rate in today's NFL is the direct result of throwing these kids in the fire far too soon.

Most of these kids need the time to work on mechanics and to learn.

ThaVirus · 04-15-2015, 03:30 PM

A lot of talk of San Diego and Philadelphia moving up for Mariota. How likely is New Orleans to do something similar? Maybe package Brees and a pick or two..

ModSocks · 04-15-2015, 03:40 PM

I dont think teams are going to have to move up too much to get Marriota. Pundits are just selling a story line.

I think Marriota slips into the teens, hence the reason why teams like SD and Philly are so interested in him. Move up to #2 for Marriota? Doubt it? Move up into the 12-15 range for him? I can see that happening.

ModSocks · 04-15-2015, 03:41 PM

I also don't think Rivers gets traded. IMO, he retires. From what ive gathered, he has his home in San Diego with his platoon of children and has no interest in moving them or changing the lifestyle he built in SD.

ChiefsCountry · 04-15-2015, 03:44 PM

If they are serious about moving to Los Angeles, I don't see Mariota as a marketable QB for either them or the Rams. He is a quiet leader type that doesn't want the spotlight. Perfect for San Diego or Nashville. Not the type for LA IMO.

58-4ever · 04-15-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I also don't think Rivers gets traded. IMO, he retires. From what ive gathered, he has his home in San Diego with his platoon of children and has no interest in moving them or changing the lifestyle he built in SD.

I've heard (could be bullshit) that he'd go to a southern state and would like to get out of SD before they move to LA. I've heard that he refuses to move to LA under any circumstances. He'll be in Wrangler commercials after he sends out some cock pics and retires.

04-13-2015, 08:22 PM
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3647229	If they trade Rivers, the team getting him will want a new deal (5 years likely) in place before any triggers are pulled. Chargers could send Rivers, #17 and a 2016 R2 and that should do the trick for moving up 15 spots. The 'value' of that pick is 2600 points, #17 is like 950... wildcard is how do they value Rivers at 33 years old? It's not impossible, but if they really want Mariota and move on... with the other teams, it could cost them a lot more. Just not sure if its worth it. __________________
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04-15-2015, 10:27 AM	#21
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	win/win for both teams IF Mariota works out Chargers get huge cap relief and retool with a new QB Titan finally get a proven QB to instill confidence to the entire team of course if Mariota sucks then the Chargers are screwed If Rivers won't sign an extension then the titans are screwed __________________
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04-15-2015, 02:19 PM	#24
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3411616	Mariota won't be ready this year, imo. Maybe I've just become jaded with these college QB's that put up insane numbers in school playing in those spread option offenses. One, maybe two reads, then run. Look no further than Manziel for proof (clearly Mariota is a highly quality person than Johnny Drinky and is clearly committed to his craft. Their results on the field is where the comparison stops with those two), or even RGIII. TL;DR - The Chargers would be dumb to trade Rivers for the chance at Mariota, imo. Rivers could be a fringe HoF'er if he ever gets to the Super Bowl.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2714064	Rivers and 17 might do it, but rivers also needs a contract extension and is 33 years old
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ThaVirus Respect the hyphen Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2052369	A lot of talk of San Diego and Philadelphia moving up for Mariota. How likely is New Orleans to do something similar? Maybe package Brees and a pick or two..
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ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4264563	I dont think teams are going to have to move up too much to get Marriota. Pundits are just selling a story line. I think Marriota slips into the teens, hence the reason why teams like SD and Philly are so interested in him. Move up to #2 for Marriota? Doubt it? Move up into the 12-15 range for him? I can see that happening. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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04-15-2015, 03:41 PM	#28
ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4264563	I also don't think Rivers gets traded. IMO, he retires. From what ive gathered, he has his home in San Diego with his platoon of children and has no interest in moving them or changing the lifestyle he built in SD. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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04-15-2015, 03:44 PM	#29
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2288752	If they are serious about moving to Los Angeles, I don't see Mariota as a marketable QB for either them or the Rams. He is a quiet leader type that doesn't want the spotlight. Perfect for San Diego or Nashville. Not the type for LA IMO.
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