Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history?

[GoChargers]

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

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[Hootie]

I'm arguing with people who would take Joe Flacco over Peyton Manning. What a waste of ****ing time. I mean, that's just ... all-time stupid.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Only on ChiefsPlanet.com would someone(s) take JOE FLACCO over PEYTON MANNING.

Do you realize how ****ing stupid that is?

LMFAO

I mean, wtffffffff lmao

Someone said they would take him in the playoffs, but the rest is your imagination.

[Hootie]

I'll give ChiefsPlanet credit, though

last week

Mark Sanchez
Jimmy Clausen
AND
Geno Smith

started a game in the NFL

this site really knows their QB's!

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'm arguing with people who would take Joe Flacco over Peyton Manning. What a waste of ****ing time. I mean, that's just ... all-time stupid.

You are the guy that is constantly at battle over anything Manning.

I just read a thread stating facts, and you are acting like an emotional prom date.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Please explain how Peyton Manning doesn't have better regular season statistics than Tom Brady. I would love to hear it.

Regular season QBR since established in 2006:

Tom:

62.4
87.1
67.8
66.5
77.0
73
77.7
61.1
75.4

Peyton:

87.2
78.4
79.3
82.8
71.7
82.4
82.9
77.4

And before 2006, it wasn't even god damn close.

So, tl;dr: you're and idiot

Try evening out the playing field, slick. Manning was a dome boy for almost all of his life. Also, stop with the QBR bullshit.

Dome v. Dome
Rest v. Rest


Go for it!

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Try evening out the playing field, slick. Manning was a dome boy for almost all of his life.

Dome v. Dome
Rest v. Rest


Go for it!

Yet another fact.

[Simply Red]

I bet Brady had a better Christmas break than Manning.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by notorious

Someone said they would take him in the playoffs, but the rest is your imagination.

I posted a clutch weighted statistic (QBR) where Peyton Manning has been the best QB in the postseason 3 times.

Here is Joe Flacco (in order):

Flacco

32.3
17.9
39.5
40.3
84.4
N/A (did not make playoffs due to being super shitty in the regular season)


CHIEFSPLANET.COM, EVERYONE

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Rahim Moore made the worst play in defensive history, the worst ... and John Fox, because John Fox, elected to run on 3rd and 7 when 1 first down wouldn't have even put them in position to get Rahim Moore'd and then take a knee after the Rahim Moore rather than try for a FG.

And then yes, Peyton made an AWFUL, AWFUL throw in OT. Awful.

HOWEVER ... at least his team made it that far.

The following week, in the AFCCG, Tom Brady shit his pants, repeatedly, and the Ravens mopped the floor with the Pats in Foxboro.

So at least Manning led his team to what should have been a game winning TD drive capped by a game winning TD throw, you know, until Rahim Moore (who I would've cut immediately after the game).

All this crying about Moore's play ignores the fact that the Donks also got ****ing lucky with Holliday returning two kicks to the house. The fact that Fivehead STILL gagged it away is incredible.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'm arguing with people who would take Joe Flacco over Peyton Manning. What a waste of ****ing time. I mean, that's just ... all-time stupid.

You would rather have Alice Smiff than Derek Carr.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Try evening out the playing field, slick. Manning was a dome boy for almost all of his life. Also, stop with the QBR bullshit.

Dome v. Dome
Rest v. Rest


Go for it!

why should I stop with the QBR "bullshit"?

Because it doesn't support this ridiculous notion that Tom Brady = clutch and Peyton Manning = choker?

[notorious]

Hootie will never give up.

I admire and feel sorry for him at the same time.


Keep fighting the good fight!

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

why should I stop with the QBR "bullshit"?

Because it doesn't support this ridiculous notion that Tom Brady = clutch and Peyton Manning = choker?

Because QBR is garbage, regardless of how it views Brady and/or Manning.


PFF is the same way, too. People who have to resort to those already know their arguments suck.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by notorious

Hootie will never give up.

I admire and feel sorry for him at the same time.


Keep fighting the good fight!

Just knock on the cage every once in a while, and watch him lose his mind.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

All this crying about Moore's play ignores the fact that the Donks also got ****ing lucky with Holliday returning two kicks to the house. The fact that Fivehead STILL gagged it away is incredible.

how is that "luck", and how do you determine what Manning would have done on those drives where they were returned?

It's a butterfly effect. You have no idea how the game would have turned out had those two kicks not been returned.

Both returns, if I remember correctly, were when Denver was either leading or tied ...

so it has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of that game. None.

Manning put them ahead LATE in the 4th quarter. Flacco threw a 3rd and long DESPERATION HAIL MARY PUNT and the defender made THE WORST PLAY in the history of the NFL.

Or will you not admit that was a bad play? Are you trying to say that Joe Flacco made a clutch play there?

Seriously, I'm curious.