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Old 09-23-2015, 01:08 PM  
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Is this Legal??

If you go to the 1:30 mark of the video in the link below, you will see a sack by the Patriots on the Bills QB. The sack is the result of two players working in tandem. First, number 91, Jamie Collins, a LB who is standing up along the line and the guy who gets the sack. The other guy is 95, Chandler Jones, who is the one I want to focus on.

95 is down at the snap, basically opposite the left guard. Upon the snap, he drives into the center, but as he is doing so, he grabs the guard and holds on to him, pulling him into the center, and opening a gap for Collins, which the guard can't fill because Jones is holding on to him.

You can see the guard flapping his arms after the play saying he was held.

First, this seems like it should NOT be legal, but I don't think I've ever seen this called in my life. A defensive lineman "holding" an offensive lineman?

So yeah, yeah, another instance of Patriots cheating blah blah blah, but does anyone know is this is actually against the rules? Seems like it ought to be...

http://www.patriots.com/video/2015/0...n-week-2-bills
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:11 PM   #31
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:22 PM   #32
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Definitely illegal and have seen it called many times. Probably less frequently in recent years.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:25 PM   #33
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every single dlinemen tries to do this.. not just the pats.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:27 PM   #34
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:38 PM   #35
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:52 PM   #36
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They're letting offensive linemen get away with a lot more than that.
That's why there is nearly 30 penalties a game?
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:33 PM   #37
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That's why there is nearly 30 penalties a game?
There aren't nearly 30 penalties a game, unless 16 is closer to 30 than I think it is.
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