I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

The illogical statement was, "Why is it so important to draft a QB just because it hasn't been done in 30 years? The team also hasn't vacated all of its draft picks in 30 years, maybe it should try doing that."

Quote it, I don't believe you can.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Quote it, I don't believe you can.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=151

To which you said...

Originally Posted by Exoter175

This post made my day, because he really hits on a point most Chiefs fans are too drowned in koolaid to understand.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=151

To which you said...

You didn't quote it.

The statement he made was putting the shoe on the other foot and pointing out how stupid your statement was using irony as a tool for comparison.

You are also making several assumptions in your statement for what he "meant" by that statement, and not actually what he "said".

So its safe to say you don't understand why I said that statement made my day.

Work on that whole comprehension thing.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You didn't quote it.

The statement he made was putting the shoe on the other foot and pointing out how stupid your statement was using irony as a tool for comparison.

It was a ****ing fallacy, you moron. For reasons I've already ****ing explained.

A: Drafting a QB in the first round is the most likely way to find a franchise starter. We haven't done so in 30 years. Maybe we should change that.
B: You also haven't vacated all your draft picks. Do you want to change to that strategy?

That's what he ****ing said, right? That's a fallacy. It's the exact same thing as:

A: All my friends built successful football teams by drafting a QB in the first round.
B: If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

It was a ****ing fallacy, you moron. For reasons I've already ****ing explained.

A: Drafting a QB in the first round is the most likely way to find a franchise starter. We haven't done so in 30 years. Maybe we should change that.
B: You also haven't vacated all your draft picks. Do you want to change to that strategy?

That's what he ****ing said, right? That's a fallacy. It's the exact same thing as:

A: All my friends built successful football teams by drafting a QB in the first round.
B: If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?

lol, its so cute when you try to act smart and use intellectual words to prove a point, and then make a really bad point for your argument.

The aspect is extremism, you moron.

And your second A/B reference is misleading and highly off subject.

Of all 32 teams today, the top 16 (successful) rosters were not all put together with QB's from the 1st round.


More importantly going to your first A/B point, he was bringing up an action polarizing your extremist argument, which is, we must draft first round QB's.

You NEVER made a point that 1st round QB's tend to have higher chances at being franchise QB's. You simply stated we had to use our 1st on a QB because we never do it.

You didn't use logic to make your point, which would have sounded like, "We have the 1.1 pick, we can take anybody in the draft. We need a franchise QB and there's a higher percentage chance that our pick will land a Franchise QB than if we chose a QB in the 2nd round".

Had you said that, nobody would ever argue with you, because it is true.

But no, your reasoning for drafting in a QB wasn't intellectual, or logical. You didn't use reason for suggesting we draft a QB in the 1st round, you used some bogus superstition that you want to break. According to you, we should draft a QB in the 1st round because we haven't done it in a billion years. That, is illogical, sir.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by O.city

For someone who says you don't NEED a first round QB to be succesful, it's a little ironic that same person says you need to spend the first overall pick on a LG or C, or for that matter a CB when we just signed 2 in free agency to start, or a 34 ILB.

Really? I said we need to spend the first overall pick on those positions?

Quote me saying that.

I merely pointed out that we have positions of need that would immediately impact this team as a starter, over selecting a QB who at best, is your #3 QB this year.

Originally Posted by SNR

You advocate drafting a RT, LG, C, WR, ILB, or a CB at 1.1?

I'm just trying to make sure you're really this dumb. I want to get this right.

No, I am not advocating that. I never once stated that the selection would be based on the 1.1.

Again, try a little reading comprehension and stop making assumptions.

Originally Posted by O.city

In a draft thats extremely deep at those exact positions, that wouldn't be the best idea.

According to whom?

Deep as in plenty of future talent? Or deep as in plenty of starter talent?

As it sits right now, there's probably 3 starting corners and 2 starting 3-4 ILB's in this draft.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Really? I said we need to spend the first overall pick on those positions?

Quote me saying that.

I merely pointed out that we have positions of need that would immediately impact this team as a starter, over selecting a QB who at best, is your #3 QB this year.



No, I am not advocating that. I never once stated that the selection would be based on the 1.1.

Again, try a little reading comprehension and stop making assumptions.



According to whom?

Deep as in plenty of future talent? Or deep as in plenty of starter talent?

As it sits right now, there's probably 3 starting corners and 2 starting 3-4 ILB's in this draft.

So I just quoted you saying that and you verified that yes, you would draft any of those guys at 1. Guys who would play RT, LG, C, #4 CB, #3 WR for us.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

No, I am not advocating that. I never once stated that the selection would be based on the 1.1.

Again, try a little reading comprehension and stop making assumptions.

Then what the ****'s the point of bringing up impact with the 1.1 pick and then listing the positions you did? Sure as **** looked like you said, "The Chiefs can find an immediate impact player at any of these positions."

It's either that or you're backpedaling something fierce. I'm going to guess that's what you really meant.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Of all 32 teams today, the top 16 (successful) rosters were not all put together with QB's from the 1st round.

I'm not quoting the rest of your post because it all seemed to hinge on this loose piece of shit that you think invalidates me somehow. If you were paying attention, I already brought up this point. Obviously you weren't, though. The rest of the post is a gigantic ****ing lie that completely ignores what I'm trying to say.

Second of all, back the **** up. I only ever responded to you because you were extolling JustPassinBy's terrible and fallacious post. I'm not getting into a QB debate with someone like you. I thought it would be okay just to focus on that one argument, but clearly even that's beyond your reach.

Explain how I made JustPassinBy's argument misleading and off subject.

I'll wait.