Chiefs Veach and the CBs, is he clueless?

Buckweath · 08-25-2018, 10:11 PM

He traded Peters, an All-pro cornerback, during the offseason, granted Hunt may have been behind that decision.

He signed Amerson who has looked absolutely dreadful so far. Dreadful even against backups.

And then anyone remember how he was saying that he felt good about stacking Will Redmond and Keith Reaser in regards to what was out there in the draft class. How does that sound now? Those guys look like our 7th and 8th CBs for a group that is not good to say the least.

I still dont get how he went from trying to sign Kyle Fuller to settling for Amerson.

Really, if he doesn't make a trade for a CB, I will really question him.

I feel good about the front seven even though I thought Ragland and Hitchens were not that good today, probably rusty.

But I think we know one bad starting CB can practically ruin an entire defense, right?

bdj23 · 08-25-2018, 10:22 PM

Trading Peters was reeruned.

I hope he helps the Rams win the Super Bowl.

Best22 · 08-25-2018, 10:46 PM

Yeah, the way he was talking I thought Redmond and Reaser may actually be worth a damn

If I was giving them all a rating (not that madden inflated bs) I'd say

Fuller: 86
Nelson: 72
Scandrick: 63
Amerson: 58
Smith: 59
Everyone else: 55 and below

For reference:
Prime Deion Sanders: 98
Marcus Peters: 90
Chris Harris: 92
Phil Gaines: 61
Terrance Mitchell: 70

Looking at this chart, we shouldn't have signed Amerson or Scandrick, and instead saved that money for Mitchell (assuming Peters remains traded, a decision which I find harder to justify everyday. I console myself with the "nobody else wanted him" narrative)

NJChiefsFan · 08-25-2018, 11:02 PM

My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so.

It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.

Best22 · 08-25-2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so.

It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.

We have one corner. That's a start

Pablo · 08-25-2018, 11:41 PM

Amerson stands for the anthem. Case closed.

nychief · 08-26-2018, 12:45 AM

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

BryanBusby · 08-26-2018, 12:53 AM

Yes

He got a fantastic ****ing gift from the Redskins in mega cap relief and capital for taking Alex off our hands and used it to sign a ****ing WR when we already had a #1. Talk about dumb.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-26-2018, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Yes

He got a fantastic ****ing gift from the Redskins in mega cap relief and capital for taking Alex off our hands and used it to sign a ****ing WR when we already had a #1. Talk about dumb.

If Sammy Watkins plays well as a top flight #2 it's worth it. Unlike the Alex Era, we don't have to play with as much balance anymore. Surround mahomes with as many players who can make his growth easier. Have a feeling you'll see veach use the draft much more than free agency to build our D, and that type of build won't happen overnight. I'm playing the long game on this one. My bigger concern is a lot more about whether we're building personnel for the wrong DC at this point.

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2018, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Yes

He got a fantastic ****ing gift from the Redskins in mega cap relief and capital for taking Alex off our hands and used it to sign a ****ing WR when we already had a #1. Talk about dumb.

The Chiefs are going for a 99 Rams type of offense.

They weren't getting that with Conley at #2.

If the Watkins signing pans out you're looking at one of the greatest offenses in NFL history.

OKchiefs · 08-26-2018, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs are going for a 99 Rams type of offense.

They weren't getting that with Conley at #2.

If the Watkins signing pans out you're looking at one of the greatest offenses in NFL history.

Not with this OL it isn't.

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Not with this OL it isn't.

Get ready for the fatties in '19

They are going to protect the franchise.

Chargem · 08-26-2018, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23

Trading Peters was reeruned.

I hope he helps the Rams win the Super Bowl.

I hope the Rams crash and burn so the Chiefs get a better 2nd round draft pick in '19.

Red Dawg · 08-26-2018, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

It was terrible but Peters was not staying here anyway. So unless you think he's the missing peice to SB dreams then it doesn't matter. The bad thing is not bringing in another DB. The ones we had on the roster suck.

Chargem · 08-26-2018, 04:33 AM

I think there's about $40m cap space in 2019 to play with right?

OL, DL and Secondary doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to deal with between FA and the draft next year.

08-25-2018, 10:11 PM
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Veach and the CBs, is he clueless? He traded Peters, an All-pro cornerback, during the offseason, granted Hunt may have been behind that decision. He signed Amerson who has looked absolutely dreadful so far. Dreadful even against backups. And then anyone remember how he was saying that he felt good about stacking Will Redmond and Keith Reaser in regards to what was out there in the draft class. How does that sound now? Those guys look like our 7th and 8th CBs for a group that is not good to say the least. I still dont get how he went from trying to sign Kyle Fuller to settling for Amerson. Really, if he doesn't make a trade for a CB, I will really question him. I feel good about the front seven even though I thought Ragland and Hitchens were not that good today, probably rusty. But I think we know one bad starting CB can practically ruin an entire defense, right?
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08-25-2018, 10:46 PM	#3
Best22 MVP Join Date: May 2016 Location: World Boxing Champs Casino cash: $3500400	Yeah, the way he was talking I thought Redmond and Reaser may actually be worth a damn If I was giving them all a rating (not that madden inflated bs) I'd say Fuller: 86 Nelson: 72 Scandrick: 63 Amerson: 58 Smith: 59 Everyone else: 55 and below For reference: Prime Deion Sanders: 98 Marcus Peters: 90 Chris Harris: 92 Phil Gaines: 61 Terrance Mitchell: 70 Looking at this chart, we shouldn't have signed Amerson or Scandrick, and instead saved that money for Mitchell (assuming Peters remains traded, a decision which I find harder to justify everyday. I console myself with the "nobody else wanted him" narrative)
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08-25-2018, 11:02 PM	#4
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $5760423	My biggest issue right now with the position is for those saying we are building for the future, who exactly from the CB group is going to step up in the future? We very likely will go into next offseason needing to fill the exact holes we did this season, with no reason to expect a person on the roster to do so. It's not even about patience, it's about not even seeing a light at the end of the tunnel at CB. Same thing with safety. Same thing with guard, unless you are counting Wylie or McKenzie. Next offseason could look very similar to this offseason in terms of need and lack of hope that the roster currently holds the solution.
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08-25-2018, 11:41 PM	#6
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $3910400	I think there's about $40m cap space in 2019 to play with right? OL, DL and Secondary doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to deal with between FA and the draft next year.
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