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**lewdog** · 03-22-2015, 11:12 AM

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What happens if you don't change the oil on your Audi TT for 84,000 miles? Take a look.

This turned up on Reddit's ever-excellent r/JustRolledIntoTheShop. There's no explanation for why this car was allowed to atrophy like this, but it's possible the person who uploaded this picture immediately recoiled in horror and had to go puke before posting anything further.

Here's the picture in high res.

Part of the reason I am always scared to buy a used car. Many people have no idea about basic maintenance and drive their cars hard.

http://jalopnik.com/what-happens-if-...-fo-1692660828

**Perineum Ripper** · 03-23-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

Fram filters are junk. If you value your vehicle i would suggest a different brand. Wix or Napa Gold is are decent. My preference for mine is K&N or Royal Purple

I haven't really heard that the higher level ones were junk..I knew the base level ones were..my family has always used them..my uncle who is a mechanic said as long as it's not a base level filter they were good..I have never had any issues

I'm not opposed to changing filters just wanting to know if you know of any personal information of the higher grade filters not working out so I can look into upgrading my filter

**penguinz** · 03-23-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mac459

I haven't really heard that the higher level ones were junk..I knew the base level ones were..my family has always used them..my uncle who is a mechanic said as long as it's not a base level filter they were good..I have never had any issues

I'm not opposed to changing filters just wanting to know if you know of any personal information of the higher grade filters not working out so I can look into upgrading my filter

The Extended life is OK. The TG still uses too much cardboard and poor quality control of the actual filter.

For the same cost, if not cheaper then the TG and definitely cheaper than the EG you can get a Wix that is much higher quality. Or the Napa Gold which is a re-branded Wix.

GloryDayz · 03-23-2015, 11:51 AM

Oil snobs crack me up...

I think changing your oil matters more than which you use. It's funny how people who tend to know which oil is better, and are willing to pay more for the better oils, are also the ones who actually change their oil.

Raise your hand if you've changed your oil and filter at least every 5,000 miles (usually 4,000 [but never 6,000!!!]), use Penzoil (and perhaps others!!!!), and have a vehicle that's got 200,000+ miles with no engine issues?

So the point isn't lost that oil snobs can spend a lot more money on better oil, but the magic is in actually changing it, and the filter (FRAM too!!), every 4,000'ish mikes (give-or-take 500 miles).

Beef Supreme · 03-23-2015, 11:54 AM

If I was Audi, I would use this as advertising, assuming the car was still running up until this point.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-23-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Oil snobs crack me up...

I'm definitely a snob when it some to conventional and synthetic.

I haven't used conventional in more than a decade.

Synthetic is better. That is a fact.

Fairplay · 03-23-2015, 12:07 PM

I have a blended oil and take it to the dealership for them to change every 7500 so that's what I do.

That's what they recommend I'm good with that.

Frosty · 03-23-2015, 12:09 PM

Even though I use Mobil 1, I generally change the oil when the manual says to do it - every 5000 on my Forester and every 10,000 on my wife's CR-V. They boys' cars get less than 3000 miles a year on them, so I do those once a year. I use stock filters on the Sub and the Honda and NAPA Gold on the boys' cars. We don't drive a lot, with mostly shorter trips, and it can get very hot here in the summer and very cold in the winter, so I like to play it safe.

The next step is synthetic manual transmission fluid in my Forester so it doesn't feel like I am shifting through tar on cold mornings.

Frosty · 03-23-2015, 12:18 PM

I've had many a battle with my Dad over Pennzoil. However, in the early 90's, my wife was driving a '87 Toyota Tercel that she had bought new. She pretty much only drove it to work in town - about 6 miles a day round trip - and she drives like a granny. The Tercel started to run rough and the mileage went from the low 30's down to about 20 mpg. We had a mechanic look at it.

He told us the oil had sludged up (I saw it - looked like jello) because of the Pennzoil and the short trips. He claimed there was paraffin in the oil and we weren't getting the engine hot enough to keep it flowing. He suggested we changed to a different brand of oil or started getting the car up to highway speeds occasionally. We changed to Havoline without changing driving habits and never had another problem.

I know it's a hotly contested theory but it seemed to be our experience. Pennzoil is probably perfectly fine for the average driver but it didn't work in our situation.

GloryDayz · 03-23-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I'm definitely a snob when it some to conventional and synthetic.

I haven't used conventional in more than a decade.

Synthetic is better. That is a fact.

Yes, yes it is...

And I trust you change your oil too, right?

Do you go the 10K miles route with synthetic? I think if you do, the price can be a lot more of a wash.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-23-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Yes, yes it is...

And I trust you change your oil too, right?

Do you go the 10K miles route with synthetic? I think if you do, the price can be a lot more of a wash.

Absolutely. Been doing my own since my dad showed me how to when I was a teenager.

10,000 on Mobil 1 and I change the filter every 5000.

Eleazar · 03-23-2015, 12:56 PM

So, SAUTO and others, what would it take to get the above engine back in order? $3,000? $5,000?

98 SR20 · 03-23-2015, 01:03 PM

I usually change my oil and filter once a year. Mobil 1 and a WIX filter. Going to start changing twice a year now, I drive my car less than 10,000 miles a year. I'm probably good with once a year oil and filter change though.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-23-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

So, SAUTO and others, what would it take to get the above engine back in order? $3,000? $5,000?

I'm no expert, but I do have some knowledge. I have no idea on price, Jason can answer that, but that head will have to come off, and a valve may be burnt. If a portion of a valve broke off, then there could be piston damage.

This cannot be repeated enough: the owner of that car is a ****ing moron.

**Old Dog** · 03-23-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Raise your hand if you've changed your oil and filter at least every 5,000 miles (usually 4,000 [but never 6,000!!!]), use Penzoil (and perhaps others!!!!), and have a vehicle that's got 200,000+ miles with no engine issues?

My Silverado crossed the 200K barrier last Thursday. I change the oil every time the idiot light comes on or every 6K miles whichever is first (normally the idiot light comes on around 5,500 it seems, but it has gone to 6K without coming on a handful of times).
I use a Fram TG and Valvoline MaxLife synthetic blend. Knock on wood, I've never had an issue other then general maintenance except for a water pump that went out a few years ago.

**SAUTO** · 03-23-2015, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I'm no expert, but I do have some knowledge. I have no idea on price, Jason can answer that, but that head will have to come off, and a valve may be burnt. If a portion of a valve broke off, then there could be piston damage.

This cannot be repeated enough: the owner of that car is a ****ing moron.

i would never do a repair on that engine.

its done. if it looks like that in the upper end what does the lower end look like?

throw it away and get another

03-23-2015, 11:51 AM	#93
GloryDayz (Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diving Casino cash: $3515380	Oil snobs crack me up... I think changing your oil matters more than which you use. It's funny how people who tend to know which oil is better, and are willing to pay more for the better oils, are also the ones who actually change their oil. Raise your hand if you've changed your oil and filter at least every 5,000 miles (usually 4,000 [but never 6,000!!!]), use Penzoil (and perhaps others!!!!), and have a vehicle that's got 200,000+ miles with no engine issues? So the point isn't lost that oil snobs can spend a lot more money on better oil, but the magic is in actually changing it, and the filter (FRAM too!!), every 4,000'ish mikes (give-or-take 500 miles).
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03-23-2015, 11:54 AM	#94
Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	If I was Audi, I would use this as advertising, assuming the car was still running up until this point.
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03-23-2015, 12:07 PM	#96
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	I have a blended oil and take it to the dealership for them to change every 7500 so that's what I do. That's what they recommend I'm good with that.
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03-23-2015, 12:09 PM	#97
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5658243	Even though I use Mobil 1, I generally change the oil when the manual says to do it - every 5000 on my Forester and every 10,000 on my wife's CR-V. They boys' cars get less than 3000 miles a year on them, so I do those once a year. I use stock filters on the Sub and the Honda and NAPA Gold on the boys' cars. We don't drive a lot, with mostly shorter trips, and it can get very hot here in the summer and very cold in the winter, so I like to play it safe. The next step is synthetic manual transmission fluid in my Forester so it doesn't feel like I am shifting through tar on cold mornings.
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03-23-2015, 12:18 PM	#98
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5658243	I've had many a battle with my Dad over Pennzoil. However, in the early 90's, my wife was driving a '87 Toyota Tercel that she had bought new. She pretty much only drove it to work in town - about 6 miles a day round trip - and she drives like a granny. The Tercel started to run rough and the mileage went from the low 30's down to about 20 mpg. We had a mechanic look at it. He told us the oil had sludged up (I saw it - looked like jello) because of the Pennzoil and the short trips. He claimed there was paraffin in the oil and we weren't getting the engine hot enough to keep it flowing. He suggested we changed to a different brand of oil or started getting the car up to highway speeds occasionally. We changed to Havoline without changing driving habits and never had another problem. I know it's a hotly contested theory but it seemed to be our experience. Pennzoil is probably perfectly fine for the average driver but it didn't work in our situation.
Posts: 14,498

03-23-2015, 12:56 PM	#101
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	So, SAUTO and others, what would it take to get the above engine back in order? $3,000? $5,000?
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03-23-2015, 01:03 PM	#102
98 SR20 FUSPANOS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Casino cash: $10006779	I usually change my oil and filter once a year. Mobil 1 and a WIX filter. Going to start changing twice a year now, I drive my car less than 10,000 miles a year. I'm probably good with once a year oil and filter change though.
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