The NFL doesn't think Mahomes is a first rounder.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by ASS11

I highly doubt it.

I dunno man...

I have the same feeling about his kid I had about Aaron Rodgers. I really think this kid is going to be great. I haven't said that about a prospect since Rodgers, not even Andrew Luck.

This kid has everything you absolutely cannot teach and his flaws are easy fixes that just require some coaching up. He has the work ethic and the attitude.

I think you're really off base on this one, but that's my opinion.

Perhaps watching Alex Whiff for all these years has made you leery of anyone that throws a football?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I dunno man...

I have the same feeling about his kid I had about Aaron Rodgers. I really think this kid is going to be great. I haven't said that about a prospect since Rodgers, not even Andrew Luck.

This kid has everything you absolutely cannot teach and his flaws are easy fixes that just require some coaching up. He has the work ethic and the attitude.

I think you're really off base on this one, but that's my opinion.

Perhaps watching Alex Whiff for all these years has made you leery of anyone that throws a football?

Wait... Mechanics are easy flaws to fix? Is that why Blake Bortles is about to rehire his mechanics coach after 3 years in the league?
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[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wait... Mechanics are easy flaws to fix? Is that why Blake Bortles is about to rehire his mechanics coach after 3 years in the league?
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You're really comparing the Jags horrific coaching to ours?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wait... Mechanics are easy flaws to fix? Is that why Blake Bortles is about to rehire his mechanics coach after 3 years in the league?
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You've already proved you don't know the first thing about biomechanics. His throwing motion is fine. A bit of work on holding the football with 2 hands, dropping back from under center, and preserving himself and hes' good to go.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wait... Mechanics are easy flaws to fix? Is that why Blake Bortles is about to rehire his mechanics coach after 3 years in the league?
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Okay, so look...

People can give me shit for liking Geno Smith to the degree that I did. That's fine. But they should also know that I while I was thinking with my heart, I was moreso thinking from a perspective of, "Well, what ****ing better choice do we have at 1.1 in this draft class considering who's on our team and what we need?" Luke ****ing Joeckel? That's who all the NFL Draft guys wanted us to take. The fact that Dorsey took Fisher is inconsequential to the idea that you may as well aim high and fail spectacularly even if it doesn't work out.

However, assholes like King need to realize that for every QB you take pride in that you correctly pooh-poohed, you deserve MORE criticism than the people who dream if you get a guy wrong.

If you were to pick any drafted QB in a given draft class, what are the odds that guy will be a bust? 80%? 90%? 95%? It's easy to say, "Geno is a bust." It's easy to say that about any QB barring the ones everybody slobbers over like Andrew Luck.

So that means when you get one of those picks dead wrong, you should get ****ed way harder than somebody who ****ing DARED to pick a QB who would actually succeed.

Just my opinion, of course.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I dunno man...

I have the same feeling about his kid I had about Aaron Rodgers. I really think this kid is going to be great. I haven't said that about a prospect since Rodgers, not even Andrew Luck.

This kid has everything you absolutely cannot teach and his flaws are easy fixes that just require some coaching up. He has the work ethic and the attitude.

I think you're really off base on this one, but that's my opinion.

Perhaps watching Alex Whiff for all these years has made you leery of anyone that throws a football?

Easy fixes?

C'mon crow. His footwork and balance needs a ton of work. Yes he has qualities you cannot teach, but for every big-armed qb that has been inflated for the quality, many more fall apart when they realize the pro game isn't heave-ho. Mahomes is an exciting prospect, but to say he can be pro-ready with easy fixes is a stretch. Whoever drafts him needs to commit to his development and be very patient.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Easy fixes?

C'mon crow. His footwork and balance needs a ton of work. Yes he has qualities you cannot teach, but for every big-armed qb that has been inflated for the quality, many more fall apart when they realize the pro game isn't heave-ho. Mahomes is an exciting prospect, but to say he can be pro-ready with easy fixes is a stretch. Whoever drafts him needs to commit to his development and be very patient.

What footwork does he need work on? The only footwork he needs work on is in dropping back from under center. His weight transfer in his throwing motion is more than fine. Kid needs no work there. Don't know what the **** everyone is carrying on about. Kid throws darts anywhere you want em thrown.

You want to know why people think he has "footwork" issues? Because they see him scramble and throw on the run and attribute it to "bad footwork." No, no that's not ****ing bad footwork. If they were talking about making bad decisions trying to throw from awkward angles on the move, then sure, he does it too much. That doesn't mean his footwork is bad. If you told me Mahomes makes bad decisions forcing the ball into tight coverage, I'd say he does it too much. That doesn't make his footwork bad.

It's the goddamn dumb**** Zeirlein that doesn't know a lick of shit about football saying he has bad footwork and people reading it like its the ****ing gospel because they are too lazy to watch it themselves or can't decipher what they are watching anyhow.

This kid needs ZERO "extra" work on his foot plant/weight transfer and follow through in his throwing motion. None. His footwork in his throwing motion is identical to Aaron Rodgers'. I've provided the videos before. He sets quickly and transfers weight from back leg to front.

Footwork. Don't give me this bullshit about footwork, because I know exactly what "footwork" people are talking about and they are dead ****ing wrong. Footwork coming out from under center and through a 3, 5, and 7-step drop? Yes, absolutely he needs work on that (and so does every single ****ing QB coming out of college now). But that isn't what idiots are talking about. They think he throws off his back foot and lofts the ball up there all the time. Completely wrong. He transfers that weight almost every single time.

And to be honest, I don't give a shit if the guy stands on his head and throws a pass so long as it's money. Mahomes is money. Of course, you could continue to cheer for that shitbag Alex Smith, he's a real fine specimen.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dude would have cut Reek before the season...

[Black Bob]

I said it all along. He should be a day three pick but, will probably go day two. He isn't going in the first.

[RunKC]

Top 20 pick

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Black Bob

I said it all along. He should be a day three pick but, will probably go day two. He isn't going in the first.

Day 3? You smoking crack? LOL. No, Josh Dobbs is the type that goes day 3.

[SAGA45]

I remember Aaron Rodgers at CAL...held the ball high near his earhole with both hands when dropping back...very robotic. Its as if they broke him down at GB...burned away the Tedford inlfuence...relaxed him...now he holds the ball low...casual...free floating in the pocket as he surveys the field...then he fires. Almost as if he were at park playing with some friends. I envision the same being the case for Mahomes who plays like that already. All he needs is work under center and experience which grows confidence.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

I remember Aaron Rodgers at CAL...held the ball high near his earhole with both hands when dropping back...very robotic. Its as if they broke him down at GB...burned away the Tedford inlfuence...relaxed him...now he holds the ball low...casual...free floating in the pocket as he surveys the field...then he fires. Almost as if he were at park playing with some friends. I envision the same being the case for Mahomes who plays like that already. All he needs is work under center and experience which grows confidence.

And in retrospect, as much as it frustrated Rodgers, sitting for THREE years was the best thing for him. This draft crop needs to sit as well, at minimum a year or two. I wonder how Rodgers would have fared if he would have had to play right away or only after one year?......

This is why I trust Dorsey to find the right guy, and to allow for the right approach in development regardless of how long it takes.
You also wonder how Alex might have turned out if he had been given more time to develop instead of being thrown to the wolves surrounded by a shitty roster?...

[MahiMike]

The NFL is correct.

[kccrow]

I'll gladly eat a monster pile of Geno Smith level shit if I'm wrong about this kid. If I'm right, there's a few that need to belly up to the table as well.