Chiefs Seahawks WR Jermaine Kearse will hit the market. - Page 3

Direckshun · 01-22-2016, 05:34 AM

I always liked this guy as a #2 WR.

Thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...attle-seahawks

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Jermaine Kearse: "I love my hometown, but I've put in too much hard work to give a discount ... My number one priority is to take care of my family's future, so I will consider all opportunities."

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-22-2016, 10:28 AM

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RunKC · 01-22-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He gets in and out of his breaks like a cartoon character slipping on ice.

The amount of wasted movement in his routes is very alarming. And it's not mental; it's a physical thing. His feet just don't fire that fast.

That's a massive knock in this offense. I still like Conley a lot, but I think he's better suited as a #3 in this offense with a role more like Martavius Bryant; a big hitter who can take the top off an offense and who can really explode in the right matchup.

He is so much like Bryant and I think they needed a guy like that to make plays like you saw at Houston. You are right that his feet need work, but his other attributes are there and I think they saw him being able to give Alex a better version of what Bowe could do by going up for the ball. It's an added benefit that he's smart, passionate and has elite straight line speed.

I really hope we focus on getting another guy like him but with better feet. I really really like Sterling Shepard to do that. He's this year's Tyler Lockett.

**RealSNR** · 01-22-2016, 10:36 AM

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When that's the list, you're probably well served to look to the draft and hope that the guys you already have take a step forward.

Dorsey helped turn that Green Bay WR corps from Robert Ferguson and a young Donald Driver who didn't know what he was doing to what it is today.

It's astounding to me that the ONLY draft investment we've made at the WR position in three years has been Chris Conley. That's a shortcoming of Dorsey's.

He's identified WR talent in the past. He's found it in all places from the 1st to the 7th. So given we've had WR problems for 3 years, why does he keep insisting on turning to free agency to solve his problems at the position? Just ****ing draft guys.

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2016, 10:42 AM

Our new #2.

Saccopoo · 01-22-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Kearse would make a legit, decent #3 WR on most NFL teams, which means on the Chiefs he'd be light years ahead of anyone but Maclin. The jury is still out on Conley, he's got the measurables, but he couldn't beat out Albert Wilson, which says a lot, and he dropped a lot of passes early. Wilson is a #4 WR/ST, masquerading as a #2. #2 WR is the Chiefs' biggest single offseason need, in my opinion, because Albert Wilson as a #2 WR is an embarrassment.

Pretty close, but ORT is probably a bigger need.

Jury is out on Conley, but at least he's there to be judged. Right tackle? We really don't have anyone on the roster capable of playing it at a 60/65% NFL level. That's a problem.

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Saccopoo · 01-22-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Our new #2.

But then, how are we going to draft Jaylon Smith?

CoMoChief · 01-22-2016, 10:47 AM

shouldve drafted lockett

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

But then, how are we going to draft Jaylon Smith?

I'm assuming that teams in front of us aren't stupid enough to let him fall any lower than 15-20.

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

But then, how are we going to draft Jaylon Smith?

What do you know about Kyle Fackrell from Utah State? Daniel Jeremiah has him going to us in his first mock draft.

ct · 01-22-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

shouldve drafted lockett

I like Mitch Morse, but that one is gonna hurt around here for a long time

CoMoChief · 01-22-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ct

I like Mitch Morse, but that one is gonna hurt around here for a long time

im almost willing to bet morse wouldve been there w/ our next pick.

instead we drafted someone that rarely plays, except for ST.

Saccopoo · 01-22-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What do you know about Kyle Fackrell from Utah State? Daniel Jeremiah has him going to us in his first mock draft.

He's a good player.

Huge and long and is very effective using his length on the field. Understands the game.

He doesn't necessarily blow me away with his burst though. Tenacious, but doesn't have elite burst from the edge.

He is very effective in getting to the ball and knows how to get it out.

Very similar to San Diego rookie Kyle Emmanuel at the same level or our own Frank Zombo. Solid, tenacious players that aren't going to hurt you with lack of football understanding, but won't be truly elite due to lack of top echelon physical traits.

However, Fackrell is longer than either Emmanuel or Zombo and that will help.

I'd also be looking at Montana's Tyrone Holmes at that position as well. Very similar to Fackrell size wise and might have better burst. Both very good prospects for the 34 OLB position.

O.city · 01-22-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I still worry he's not the right kind of #2 for this offense.

He could be a dynamite #2 in Pittsburgh but he's just not precise enough or quick enough with his feet to be a true #2 here. Additionally, we want our #2 to be able to step in as a #1 and I don't think his game is rounded enough for that.

Sadly, Emmanuel Sanders would've been perfect for that job.

Of the likely FAs, Travis Benjamin is the guy I see that would be best suited for the job. He's not that big WR that teams are likely to pay as a #1 so he may be a little more affordable. He's quick enough and a solid route-runner with elite YAC skills so he should be great in the scheme. He proved this year that he can hold his own as a #1 if absolutely necessary (though it's not an ideal role for him).

Benjamin is tops among my FA WR candidates by a fair margin. Unfortunately it appears that it's very likely he'll be staying in Cleveland. It's unfortunate as he really is an ideal option; almost Maclin-like in terms of how well he would fit given our needs.

Marvin Jones is probably #2. I'd probably say Rishard Matthews is my #3 and then maybe Hankerson and Sanu.

When that's the list, you're probably well served to look to the draft and hope that the guys you already have take a step forward.

Benjamin would be tits, with Conley and Wilson as the 3 and 4.

However, I think it's time to throw a few more draft picks in there from a financial standpoint.

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2016, 11:19 AM

Will Fuller can take the top off of a defense.
Will Fuller can take a screen pass to the house.
Will Fuller can run the intermediate routes that Reid loves.
Will Fuller at #28.

DJ's left nut · 01-22-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Benjamin would be tits, with Conley and Wilson as the 3 and 4.

However, I think it's time to throw a few more draft picks in there from a financial standpoint.

Everyone shit on the other guy with this idea, but seriously, why couldn't Jamaal be used like Benjamin?

Spencer Ware may actually be a better pure RB for the kind of change of pace this offense needs. His ability to just beat the shit out of people and force teams to keep more bulk on the field to answer for him allows us to make more space.

With Charles back there, you just put speed everywhere and it'll work itself out. You try to do that with Ware and he'll just run you the !@#$ over. So you put in a LBer or bigger box safety and now we're able to find a little more room in the passing game as well.

If you used Charles on jet-sweep actions and had him running all those plays that Wilson was running....holy ****, how do you deal with that? If he gets the ball, he's in space. If you throw him the ball, he's in space. Lord, think of the WR screens! If you hand it to Ware, Charles is such a threat that he's almost certainly pulled someone out of the middle on the sweep action. It would work, man.

It'll never happen and truthfully maybe it shouldn't, but someone tell me why Charles couldn't be the X receiver in this offense, especially if we increase the amount of jet-sweep actions we run. When Ware needs a break, you just move Charles to the backfield and put Wilson back out there. It would extend Jamaal's career by taken a bunch of hits off his body and I think we'd be a better team for it.

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