Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

[ct]

Originally Posted by Fish

Why is it that this attitude is reserved for wait staff? I've never really understood that. Do you go into a book store, and feel obligated to be extra nice to the lady behind the counter because she might be a debt-riddled college student? How about a gas station attendant? Do you ever feel obligated to give them a tip because they might be financially insecure? You could make a difference in that gas station attendant's life too. How about those grocery clerks that might be trying to feed their kids? Bank tellers? Construction workers?

Those jobs are all filled by single mothers and college students too. Why don't we make any effort to make a financial difference in their lives?

Restaurants could easily find a better way to ensure that their employees receive consistent income. But instead, we're given a sob story about how poorly waitstaff has it, and why we should tip better.

Ok, so take that 18% and instead of hoping the patrons leave that as a consistent tip, and give it straight to the wait staff. Ok they get an 18% lift in income, so now they make $3.54/hr instead of $3.00 for that table. Now guess what, the bus staff, host staff, and bar staff don't get tips either, so now they need 18% per check. so how many tables at one time to get 18% from each to make a decent wage?

Your food cost will skyrocket, and still these folks won't make much money.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by ct

Ok, so take that 18% and instead of hoping the patrons leave that as a consistent tip, and give it straight to the wait staff. Ok they get an 18% lift in income, so now they make $3.54/hr instead of $3.00 for that table. Now guess what, the bus staff, host staff, and bar staff don't get tips either, so now they need 18% per check. so how many tables at one time to get 18% from each to make a decent wage?

Your food cost will skyrocket, and still these folks won't make much money.

Sorry, but none of that is my problem. Which is why the tipping system fails. Because the restaurant tries to make it the consumer's problem.

It's all unnecessary. It doesn't have to be that complicated. And no, food cost wouldn't skyrocket. It would certainly go up, but it wouldn't skyrocket. You wouldn't need to provide much if any additional money to the system. It would simply be transferring the responsibility of that 18% from the inconsistent consumer, to the the restaurant. Consumers would still pay the 18% in terms of additional food price, but the neat bonus is that the waitstaff would be guaranteed a wage. The only thing it would remove from the situation is the portion some patrons might tip above and beyond 18%. But in the long run, that could certainly be addressed. And you could still allow patrons to tip. You would just be removing the possible inconsistency that occurs because it relies on the consumer's judgement/satisfaction/current mood/whatever else.