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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #1
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RGIII is -- his supporting cast is terrible. It's not like Luck is surrounded by elite talent.

Amazing how both those offensive supporting casts went from awful to very good with a simple QB change.
Neither of those teams are winning anything this year.

RGIII and Luck will need help to win a SB. Guaranteed.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #2
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RGIII is -- his supporting cast is terrible. It's not like Luck is surrounded by elite talent.

Amazing how both those offensive supporting casts went from awful to very good with a simple QB change.
Not to derail the thread, but RGIII is getting a lot of credit but he's not delivering W's. I love the kid, but I think everyone is a bit over enamored with him.

Again....I LOVE the kid.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:52 PM   #3
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Not to derail the thread, but RGIII is getting a lot of credit but he's not delivering W's. I love the kid, but I think everyone is a bit over enamored with him.

Again....I LOVE the kid.
RGIII has a bunch of assholes dropping balls all over the place. They had like 9 drops yesterday. No excuse. Plus his OL is average at best.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:06 AM   #4
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Sorry, but you need more than just a QB.

Look at the Falcons.

Is Ryan surrounded by a bunch of mediocre slapdicks?
A good quarterback makes all his receivers and people around him look better than they are. I think this is the case with Ryan he's making his surrounding cast look better than they are.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:10 AM   #5
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A good quarterback makes all his receivers and people around him look better than they are. I think this is the case with Ryan he's making his surrounding cast look better than they are.
It's not like he has the greatest TE of all time, a superfreak WR they sold the farm to get, and a 2010 MVP long shot canidate on the other side.

Ryan has gotten better but don't kid yourself.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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All the constant discussion about CBs is the most wasted bandwidth on this forum anymore. CBs are overrated. Find pass rushers.

There are teams that make it to the Super Bowl on an almost yearly basis with worse CBs than the Chiefs. Most people couldn't name the CBs on most recent championship teams, except for Charles Woodson, and even he missed half of the Super Bowl injured. This is becoming almost as arcane as saying you need a great RB to win. The teams that win rush the passer the best.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:34 PM   #7
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All the constant discussion about CBs is the most wasted bandwidth on this forum anymore. CBs are overrated. Find pass rushers.

There are teams that make it to the Super Bowl on an almost yearly basis with worse CBs than the Chiefs. Most people couldn't name the CBs on most recent championship teams, except for Charles Woodson, and even he missed half of the Super Bowl injured. This is becoming almost as arcane as saying you need a great RB to win. The teams that win rush the passer the best.
21st in the league in sacks.

Meanwhile, I'll wait patiently for someone to blame RAC for the fact that 29 other NFL players have more sacks than Tamba Hali.
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The discussion about CBs is just a point being used to make that Pioli hasn't brought in talent at a lot of positions.

Including pass rushers.

He has brought in one pass rusher. In four years.

And he let Babin and Gilberry go.

He's a monster.
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Wrong. Baldwin and McCluster are trash. Breaston is outta here.

Deion Branch is better than Baldwin and McCluster, and it's not even close.
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Wrong. Baldwin and McCluster are trash. Breaston is outta here.

Deion Branch is better than Baldwin and McCluster, and it's not even close.
Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.
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Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.
He had 725 yards his first season there.

Jon Baldwin will never have 600 yards in an NFL season. Write it down.
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He had 725 yards his first season there.

Jon Baldwin will never have 600 yards in an NFL season. Write it down.
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Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.
No, he's not.

The Chiefs receiving corp, outside of Bowe, is dogshit.
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No, he's not.

The Chiefs receiving corp, outside of Bowe, is dogshit.
Not sure how you can thoroughly judge Baldwin based on his time in league and playing time or Breaston for that matter based on playing time (he was solid in ARZ). I'm no fan, but McCluster isn't as bad as some think (although I'll conceed his draft postition was stupid and wouldn't mind him leaving).

I can't help but think with a good Offensive coordinator and even a half assed QB, this WR corp looks waaay better.
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