Chiefs NFLN Top 100 Players of 2016 starts tonight. Which Chiefs make it? - Page 19

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11:50 AM

100-91 starts at 7pm Arrowhead time. I love this show, every year it's one of my favorites. Really gives a good insight to player opinions around the league. With all that said, who do you see making the list for us this year? Last year, we had Jamaal Charles (12), Justin Houston (27, criminally low after 22 sack season), Jeremy Maclin (61, after signing), and Tamba Hali (70).

I'll predict that this year making the player's list will be....

Charles (he'll make it, trust me)
Maclin
Kelce
Houston
Hali
DJ
Peters
Berry

That's 8 for me, which would likely be tied for the most or 2nd most in the league amongst teams...

Thus far:

Justin Houston:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Justin-Houston

Eric Berry: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-55-Eric-Berry

Marcus Peters: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Marcus-Peters

Jamaal Charles: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Jamaal-Charles

Derrick Johnson: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...errick-Johnson

Alex Smith: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-81-Alex-Smith

Tamba Hali: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-84-Tamba-Hali

Travis Kelce: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...1-Travis-Kelce

Jeremy Maclin: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Jeremy-Maclin

thabear04 · 06-02-2016, 03:50 PM

Nice to see the Jags finally do something right.

Jags WR Allen Hurns agrees to 4-year, $40M extension

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Obviously it's not just CP that holds this opinion considering where Bortles landed on this list.

And it got more backlash than any of the rest so far...

You aren't telling me anything I don't know. Most of you just clearly did not watch Bortles. I know quite a few Jags fans and they'd tell you themselves he has a long way to go. He was downright terrible at times.

I mean everybody on this board respects Sorter's opinions, he said he watched 6 games and while he was great at times, he was terrible at others. He's not there yet, that's all I'm saying. It is way too early to be calling him a fringe top 50 overall player.

OldSchool · 06-02-2016, 05:17 PM

Damn, I thought Berry would be higher than that. I guess kicking cancer's ass can only get him so far.

mcaj22 · 06-02-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

And it got more backlash than any of the rest so far...

You aren't telling me anything I don't know. Most of you just clearly did not watch Bortles. I know quite a few Jags fans and they'd tell you themselves he has a long way to go. He was downright terrible at times.

I mean everybody on this board respects Sorter's opinions, he said he watched 6 games and while he was great at times, he was terrible at others. He's not there yet, that's all I'm saying. It is way too early to be calling him a fringe top 50 overall player.

32 NFL teams get to pick 2 guys a piece to start the season with their franchise. 64 players get taken; you don't think Bortles is in the top 64? Some team won't make him one of their two picks?

I feel like I just described one of those poll games around here during the offseason with the 7593 heats

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

32 NFL teams get to pick 2 guys a piece to start the season with their franchise. 64 players get taken; you don't think Bortles is in the top 64? Some team won't make him one of their two picks?

I feel like I just described one of those poll games around here during the offseason with the 7593 heats

Yes, but that is because of projection. What he can be. Not what he was 2015, or today.

I've already said it, but I loved Bortles coming out and he was my #1 QB, so I'm not dissing him at all. The simple truth is the guy has all the tools to be a great QB, but he still has a long way to go.

ThaVirus · 06-02-2016, 06:25 PM

These top 100 lists are a projection, bro.

It's the top 100 players of 2016 which hasn't even happened yet. These guys are ranking the best players heading into this next season.

jspchief · 06-02-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes, but that is because of projection. What he can be. Not what he was 2015, or today.

I've already said it, but I loved Bortles coming out and he was my #1 QB, so I'm not dissing him at all. The simple truth is the guy has all the tools to be a great QB, but he still has a long way to go.

Well, it is a list for 2016 so....

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Well, it is a list for 2016 so....

And like I said he will not be a top 50 player in 2016 when he has to face the AFCW, NFCN, and the Bengals. Not to mention their entire division should be better next year. People will think he regressed, but it will be a big learning experience for him. He's not going to get better playing a schedule like he did last year.

If the Chiefs drafted Bortles and he did what he did against the teams he did (meaning both the good and the bad), CP might be cautiously optimistic, but nobody would be agreeing with this ranking quite yet.

jspchief · 06-02-2016, 06:43 PM

2 safeties left on the list. Honey Badger and Chancellor?

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

2 safeties left on the list. Honey Badger and Chancellor?

Honey Badger for sure, but Chancellor higher than Thomas? I don't think I'd agree with that. Can't think of who else it could be though.

mcaj22 · 06-02-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

And like I said he will not be a top 50 player in 2016 when he has to face the AFCW, NFCN, and the Bengals. Not to mention their entire division should be better next year. People will think he regressed, but it will be a big learning experience for him. He's not going to get better playing a schedule like he did last year.

If the Chiefs drafted Bortles and he did what he did against the teams he did (meaning both the good and the bad), CP might be cautiously optimistic, but nobody would be agreeing with this ranking quite yet.

He's going to get in shootouts with the Carr and the Raiders, Rivers and the Chargers, Rodgers and the Packers, Stafford and the Lions, Cutler and the Bears

NONE OF THOSE TEAMS STOP THE PASS and its been that way for the last like ten years. They just have QBs that can throw. He's going to be able to sling it with his fellow gunslinger QBs he plays against.

You make seem like outside the Bengals, Vikings, Chiefs and Broncos hes facing good defensive backfields that can hold him for under 200 yards.

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

He's going to get in shootouts with the Carr and the Raiders, Rivers and the Chargers, Rodgers and the Packers, Stafford and the Lions, Cutler and the Bears

NONE OF THOSE TEAMS STOP THE PASS and its been that way for the last like ten years. They just have QBs that can throw. He's going to be able to sling it with his fellow gunslinger QBs he plays against.

You make seem like outside the Bengals, Vikings, Chiefs and Broncos hes facing good defensive backfields that can hold him for under 200 yards.

Neither one of those D's are as bad as the ones in the NFCS and AFCS. Raiders and Chargers have the pass rushers to give the Jags Oline problems. The Packers, Bears, and Lions all have talent on defense, and in particular pass rushers. They all got better this offseason on that side of the ball also, especially the Raiders and Bears.

You're seriously underestimating how bad those two divisions are outside of the Panthers. That made up 9 of their 16 games last year.

ThaVirus · 06-02-2016, 09:25 PM

Arguing the schedule for the upcoming season is nigh pointless. No one knows how these teams will fare.

What appears to be a tough schedule may turn out to be light work.

staylor26 · 06-02-2016, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Arguing the schedule for the upcoming season is nigh pointless. No one knows how these teams will fare.

What appears to be a tough schedule may turn out to be light work.

I'm not going to waste my time posting all the names because I'm sick of this argument, but look at the pass rushers they will likely be facing this year. They literally play the best of the best just about every week. It's like night and day from last year. Their Oline hasn't gotten much better in the offseason. I believe their only addition was Beachum. I understand what you're saying, but there is no doubt this schedule will be thougher. We already know how shit their schedule was last year.

Sorter · 06-02-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Honey Badger for sure, but Chancellor higher than Thomas? I don't think I'd agree with that. Can't think of who else it could be though.

Likely Weddle, McCourty, or Kam for the last spot.

05-04-2016, 04:56 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9119447	NFL Top 100 Players of 2016 starts tonight. Which Chiefs make it? 100-91 starts at 7pm Arrowhead time. I love this show, every year it's one of my favorites. Really gives a good insight to player opinions around the league. With all that said, who do you see making the list for us this year? Last year, we had Jamaal Charles (12), Justin Houston (27, criminally low after 22 sack season), Jeremy Maclin (61, after signing), and Tamba Hali (70). I'll predict that this year making the player's list will be.... Charles (he'll make it, trust me) Maclin Kelce Houston Hali DJ Peters Berry That's 8 for me, which would likely be tied for the most or 2nd most in the league amongst teams... Thus far: Justin Houston:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Justin-Houston Eric Berry: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-55-Eric-Berry Marcus Peters: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Marcus-Peters Jamaal Charles: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...Jamaal-Charles Derrick Johnson: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...errick-Johnson Alex Smith: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-81-Alex-Smith Tamba Hali: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-84-Tamba-Hali Travis Kelce: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...1-Travis-Kelce Jeremy Maclin: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-Jeremy-Maclin Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 06-28-2016 at 11:50 AM..
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