Sac's 2014 Chiefs Mock Draft

[O.city]

Switch fales with Derek Carr and were good.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Switch fales with Derek Carr and were good.

Carr and Fales are pretty much the same guy, and I think Fales has better field understanding and accuracy as well as already experienced in the same type of system that Reid is currently running. Carr is working with a better team.

Pretty easy to dissect the comparisons. They both are playing in the same conference.

And as I said earlier, neither are as good as Utah State's Chuckie Keeton, who would be the guy I'd look at drafting if I was the Chiefs next season, depending upon how he comes back from the knee injury.

Personally, I think that by picking either Fales or Carr, you are simply getting a backup to Smith, not a potential starter in three or four years. You are basically drafting a replacement for Chase Daniel, not an eventual replacement to Alex Smith. And that's not worth spending a first round pick on, which you will most likely have to do when picking Derek Carr.

WEEK 9 SENIOR BOWL COLLEGE SENIOR OF THE WEEK: David Fales has had his share of great games at San Jose State. Saturday, the Spartans' senior may have had his best. Fales was 27-37 passing for 482 yards and five touchdowns, including the game-winner with seven seconds left, to lift SJSU past Wyoming, 51-44. He also ran for a touchdown as San Jose State overcame a 16-point deficit in the second half. Fales now has 50 career touchdowns passes and is nine shy of tying the school record. For his performance, Fales is the Reese's Senior Bowl College Senior of the Week. - SeniorBowl.com

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WEEK 10 CBSSPORTS.COM NATIONAL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Fresno State QB Derek Carr...Derek Carr has been on an offensive warpath as of late, breaking school records left and right while leading the Bulldogs on their climb up the BCS standings. Carr became Fresno State's career passing leader on Saturday night thanks to a 487 yard performance that included three passing touchdowns and another score on the ground. It was Carr's 12th career 400-yard passing game, and the Bulldogs needed every bit of it with Nevada fighting back in the second half and cutting the deficit to one score early in the fourth quarter. - CBSSports.com

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Carr and Fales are pretty much the same guy, and I think Fales has better field understanding and accuracy as well as already experienced in the same type of system that Reid is currently running. Carr is working with a better team.

Pretty easy to dissect the comparisons. They both are playing in the same conference.

And as I said earlier, neither are as good as Utah State's Chuckie Keeton, who would be the guy I'd look at drafting if I was the Chiefs next season, depending upon how he comes back from the knee injury.

Personally, I think that by picking either Fales or Carr, you are simply getting a backup to Smith, not a potential starter in three or four years. You are basically drafting a replacement for Chase Daniel, not an eventual replacement to Alex Smith. And that's not worth spending a first round pick on, which you will most likely have to do when picking Derek Carr.



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Thing I like about Carr is that he has a better arm, and he calls about 80% oft he plays for Fresno. He doesn't look to the sidelines, he does it all himself.

I think his upside is more than a backup though, but he'd need a year or two. I think he's essentially a shorter bray with better intangibles.

It just depends what we do early. I think this would be a Great year (if we are in the 25-30 area) to trade back in the early secondary nd recoup another 2 or 3. Beckham could still be there plus grabbing another pick? Win win IMO.

[Kingsburg#12]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing I like about Carr is that he has a better arm, and he calls about 80% oft he plays for Fresno. He doesn't look to the sidelines, he does it all himself.

I think his upside is more than a backup though, but he'd need a year or two. I think he's essentially a shorter bray with better intangibles.

It just depends what we do early. I think this would be a Great year (if we are in the 25-30 area) to trade back in the early secondary nd recoup another 2 or 3. Beckham could still be there plus grabbing another pick? Win win IMO.

Carr is a solid character, but comparing him to Bray is ridiculous. Bray has a much stronger arm and his only knock was footwork and maturity and zero coaching in college. He's 21 years old and Reid has been very impressed with his development and work ethic. "If he develops properly", His arm and abilities will compare to Favre and Marino.
Carr doesn't have the arm, or the height. The ball takes a while to reach the target. Good decision maker against terrible competition. His ceiling is much much lower.

[Nightfyre]

I haven't watched any Fales this year, but based on what I watched last year, the guy doesn't have an NFL arm. The end.

[Saccopoo]

Newly updated to reflect the ongoing needs of the Chiefs 3/4ths of the way through the 2013 season.

[BryanBusby]

I don't see Haha Clinton-Dix lasting into the 20's. Beyond that, name owns so much.

The Rams will be picking for the second time by that point and they will take him if he's still up because this is a bad safety class and they have terrible ones.

[RunKC]

Some options for the Chiefs right now in the late first round.

Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE Washington
Lamarcus Joyner S FSU

But the homer in me would love it if Marquise Lee fell to us somehow.

[RealSNR]

I would cream if Lee fell to us in the first round.

Our TE situation is also pretty brutal.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

I would cream if Lee fell to us in the first round.

Our TE situation is also pretty brutal.

Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.

Fasano or Beardman can leave. Or even Kelce if he has Moeaki Syndrome.

I would hope it's Fasano just because of age. If you're depending on a guy like him as your #1 TE, you should probably consider finding an upgrade.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.

I'm not gonna count on Fasano for anything at this point. He's a journeyman at best and a constant injury risk at worst.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not gonna count on Fasano for anything at this point. He's a journeyman at best and a constant injury risk at worst.

I was excited about the Fasano signing. Shit just didn't work out.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I was excited about the Fasano signing. Shit just didn't work out.

The guy is a solid backup/#2. Does everything well.

Personally, I'd love Jason Witten on this offense with Smith as the QB. Money all game long, however, that ain't gonna happen as he inked a big time, five year deal in 2011 with the Cowboys.

Kelce has the same level of athleticism as Witten, and we did spend a very high third on the guy. Reid knows the family and obviously saw something in the guy that he liked. As I stated earlier, with Kelce, Fasano and McGrath, I wouldn't be spending anymore draft picks on the position until it's proven that Kelce doesn't have the potential and Fasano can't stay healthy. McGrath has been a huge boon for the team and has earned his spot. Using a pick on the TE position would be a waste, especially an early pick. We've got to find out if Kelce can play before that position is once again addressed.

However, even the casual fan knows that WR, OG and FS are serious needs. Personally, I don't think that Reid likes messing with a lineup once it's set for the season. We'll really see Commings and McDougald push at the FS spot next summer IMO. However, other than Hemmingway, there isn't anything at the WR position beyond Bowe and even he has struggled this season and at this point might be better utilized as a big slot guy much in the same way as Boldin is being utilized in San Francisco.

I think you'll see no less than two WR in this next draft in an effort to upgrade the position. You'll also see a OG and an OT somewhere as depth is needed. OG could be early in an effort to push Allen/the LOG spot. If they went OL with their first pick, my bet would be Gabe Jackson, who is a power blocking left guard who has absolutely dominated the SEC this season. (Three time SEC Lineman of the Week in 2013.) However, as I stated, if a guy like Marquis Lee or HaHa Dix fell to them, I think that they would be very tempted to take either of those players.

[RunKC]

Let's be honest here. Reid is going to take a big fatty like he always does.

Cyril Richardson
Gabe Jackson
Stephon Tuitt (if he's there)


I wouldn't mind Tuitt actually. 6'6" 312 lbs, is very athletic and has 18 sacks the last 2 years. He reminds me of Sheldon Richardson.