Angry man clings to school bus

[Pitt Gorilla]

[saphojunkie]

Dude is ****ing lucky he wasn't shot. If I'm driving a school bus full of kids and some nut forces his way on, I'm assuming he came for the worst reasons imaginable.

[DanT]

Is the angry man wearing an NRA cap? I can't decipher what the big letters are.

[alpha_omega]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

That's horrible.

That is absolutely horrible...but, they shouldn't have been passing on a double yellow.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DanT

I'm not sure what the antecedent is for the pronoun in your first question, Pitt Gorilla, but let me clarify that I'm talking about whether the bus driver should be charged. I've not commented on whether or not the angry man should be charged, although my post did quote his attorney in that regard. I'm just saying that it's surprising to me that the driver was not charged.

Your second comment might be why the police did not immediately charge the driver. It hadn't occurred to me that anyone would think that what the driver did would be viewed as a legal option to keep the kids safe. Those kids were plenty safe, in my opinion, based on my eleven years of experience being bused to school in Kansas City and knowing how expert kids are at finding and ****ing with victims with no ability to retaliate.

Sorry, I was talking about the old guy. His lawyer seemed confused as to why his client might be charged.

As a bus driver, I would think letting any unauthorized person onto the bus would be a horrible idea. Who knows if this clown is going to shoot up a bus full of kids or not as a "punishment". I'd certainly hope not, but I wouldn't want to be the guy that allowed it either.

Stopping appears to have been the wrong move, as this idiot was able to force his way through the doors and onto the bus. If stopping is the wrong thing to do, perhaps continuing whilst notifying police is the best course of action. Don't want to get run over? Don't climb onto the front of a ****ing bus.

[DanT]

Here's another account, from which I'm quoting. It gives a bit more detail about why the driver was not immediately charged.

http://wtvr.com/2017/10/09/leverne-doran-arrest/

"At that point the school bus driver was concerned for his safety and concerned for the safety of the children and students on board, did not want to open the door," Sgt. Bylen said. "So the man went around to the front of the bus and stood in front of the bus as it began to move forward."

As the bus started to drive away, Doran jumped up on the hood.

"The bus driver stated that he was headed towards the Parkville precinct because he needed assistance from police. The incident was actually resolved prior to that, we happened to have an off-duty officer who was present in the area, who assisted and intervened quickly," Sgt. Bylen said.

Doran was taken into custody without incident. Police are still investigating whether anything was thrown from the bus.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DanT

Here's another account, from which I'm quoting. It gives a bit more detail about why the driver was not immediately charged.

http://wtvr.com/2017/10/09/leverne-doran-arrest/

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Sorry, I was talking about the old guy. His lawyer seemed confused as to why his client might be charged.

As a bus driver, I would think letting any unauthorized person onto the bus would be a horrible idea. Who knows if this clown is going to shoot up a bus full of kids or not as a "punishment". I'd certainly hope not, but I wouldn't want to be the guy that allowed it either.

Stopping appears to have been the wrong move, as this idiot was able to force his way through the doors and onto the bus. If stopping is the wrong thing to do, perhaps continuing whilst notifying police is the best course of action. Don't want to get run over? Don't climb onto the front of a ****ing bus.

As far as I can tell, the angry old man did not get on the bus. Based on my experiences riding school buses from 2nd to 12th grade, I don't think the driver would have needed to worry about the old man making his way onto the bus, because the man would have needed first to get to the door, which would have allowed the driver space to drive away. Even if the driver were stopped, the man would have needed to charge past the doors and up a confined stairwell, which would have been fairly easy for the driver to defend simply by donkey-stomping or forward kicking the invader, unless the invader had a gun. But I would think that if the old man had a gun, it would have been brandished by then.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DanT

As far as I can tell, the angry old man did not get on the bus. Based on my experiences riding school buses from 2nd to 12th grade, I don't think the driver would have needed to worry about the old man making his way onto the bus, because the man would have needed first to get to the door, which would have allowed the driver space to drive away. Even if the driver were stopped, the man would have needed to charge past the doors and up a confined stairwell, which would have been fairly easy for the driver to defend simply by donkey-stomping or forward kicking the invader, unless the invader had a gun. But I would think that if the old man had a gun, it would have been brandished by then.

Literally from your previous post:

According to charging documents, the bus stopped after a short distance, and Doran got off the hood and, "was able to pull and force open the doors at which time he walked onto the bus and began arguing with the bus driver."

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Literally from your previous post:

According to charging documents, the bus stopped after a short distance, and Doran got off the hood and, "was able to pull and force open the doors at which time he walked onto the bus and began arguing with the bus driver."

A-ha! Thanks for correcting me! I'm wrong, both in thinking that the man hadn't gotten on the bus and thinking that he would not have been able to get on the bus. I somehow missed the part of the story you quoted. I think I was selectively reading it trying to figure out why the driver wasn't charged.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DanT

A-ha! Thanks for correcting me! I'm wrong, both in thinking that the man hadn't gotten on the bus and thinking that he would not have been able to get on the bus. I somehow missed the part of the story you quoted. I think I was selectively reading it trying to figure out why the driver wasn't charged.

I think that goes a long way to understanding why the driver would have kept driving; if the bus stops, this idiot has the chance to force his way onto it and access children whose safety has been entrusted to this driver.

Anecdotal experiences of shitty kids shouldn't be enough to allow this clown to have access to them.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DanT

Hey Pitt Gorilla, can you quote the URL that you're referring to. I somehow am not able to find the quote you described in the three URLs I've cited, but if you tell me which URL to look at, I can try to read it more closely.

Post 28.

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Post 28.

Thanks, Pitt Gorilla!

It will be interesting to see how this case plays out. I wonder why there is no video of the man arguing with the driver.

[Nickel D]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Another example:

He also got it on video that the motorcyclist was crossing over double solid yellow lines which, FYI, is illegal.

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Nickel D

He also got it on video that the motorcyclist was crossing over double solid yellow lines which, FYI, is illegal.

So that gives him the right to swerve into him and possibly killing him? Dumbass. Cops are the only ones allowed to enforce/punish people for breaking laws. Not angry old baby boomers.