Life Tip for Job Seekers - Page 13

**Rain Man** · 09-23-2014, 11:11 AM

Show up at your freakin' interview on time. Seriously. If you show up 45 minutes late to a JOB INTERVIEW, it makes a BAD IMPRESSION. I don't care if you missed your bus or overslept or had other things going on. I don't care at all.

There are no excuses for being late to a job interview. Zero. If you were pulling people out of a burning car en route to the interview, that's great and I commend you for it, but it only takes three minutes to pull people out of a burning car. You should have planned ahead to be within sight of the interview location an hour before your interview. You should still be on time, but with a slight aroma of burning rubber and a great story for me.

I guess possibly if you were on your way to an interview in Holland and you saw a dam breaking, and you put your finger in the dam, and it then took an hour for the dam repairers to show up, then that might be a feasible excuse since you saved countless lives. But I'd still want to see it on the news that evening, and I'd want to know that there were no other people around who could have switched fingers with you.

Here's how you go to a job interview:

1. Drive to the interview with plans to be there an hour early.
2. Walk to the front door of the place an hour early just to be sure you know where it is.
3. Go to the nearest coffee shop and check out the company's web site and come up with some good questions and talking points.
4. Show up 10 minutes early.

Sheesh. Humanity amazes me sometimes.

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

How early was DaFace?

Which time?

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Isn't that who a reference is? Your boss at your former work? Are people giving out friends and family as references?

I've seen a variety of people listed as references, but yeah, it's often a supervisor. I see some coworker references too, which is a red flag for me if someone lists a coworker and not a supervisor.

Rasputin · 10-15-2014, 11:40 AM

Ok had a job interview this morning at 9. I think it went pretty good. Gave myself plenty of time to get there and find my way. I dressed nice and was in front of a panel of three people. Did my best to answer the questions and also had to type out ten minutes on a computer of why I want to work there and also what would make them want to hire me.

Welp I think I did good and all. I know the pay will be better than what I was making but also pretty much can get all the over time I want and that would be great.

It sucks not having a job. It also sucks to wait to find out if I will be hired because I don't know if I should put out other job applications or not. I hate to ask a place for a job knowing I could be hired somewhere else but if that job doesn't hire me then I waist a week of finding employment.

Go Royals keep my hopes up.

KC native · 10-15-2014, 11:47 AM

I've only had one potential employer actually check my references. They offered me a job but the pay was shit and they wanted me to do the job and start a new line of business for them. The company was extremely small.

ThaVirus · 10-15-2014, 12:24 PM

Potential employers don't give a **** about you.

I'd say, if you haven't heard back on a specific job, you should continue looking. The only person you can count on to have your back is you.

KC native · 10-15-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Potential employers don't give a **** about you.

I'd say, if you haven't heard back on a specific job, you should continue looking. The only person you can count on to have your back is you.

and unless you're Joey, your mom.

scho63 · 10-15-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I've only had one potential employer actually check my references. They offered me a job but the pay was shit and they wanted me to do the job and start a new line of business for them. The company was extremely small.

The more significant the job, the greater the chance your employer will check your references.

CEO's will be checked 100% of the time and all their references' references will also be called along with college roommates, professors, neighbors, and local police.

If you are applying for your first job at McDonalds, Hyvee, or a local business less than 5% of the time.

KC native · 10-15-2014, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

The more significant the job, the greater the chance your employer will check your references.

CEO's will be checked 100% of the time and all their references' references will also be called along with college roommates, professors, neighbors, and local police.

If you are applying for your first job at McDonalds, Hyvee, or a local business less than 5% of the time.

Yea, I've steadily moved up during my career. Still only had one reference check.

**Iowanian** · 10-15-2014, 12:53 PM

Hiring managers.

I'm doing some presentations to college students on the topic of mistakes made in the job search/interview process.

I'd be interested to see a collection of your answers to these.
1. The resume'/initial contact
2. Interview mistakes that guarantee non-employment with you.

Thank you.

scho63 · 10-15-2014, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native

Yea, I've steadily moved up during my career. Still only had one reference check.

That's shocking! What industry are you in?

KC native · 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

That's shocking! What industry are you in?

Finance.

**Iowanian** · 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM

I do check references fwiw. At least 1 contact per considered applicant.

In my industry, I likely personally know someone who knows them or has worked with them.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-15-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

Leave it off. It's expected that references would be available on request.

I disagree with this. When I was hiring, I always greatly appreciated when resumes included references. I don't like having the chase people down for references.

JMO.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-15-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, as an employer you're going to be careful about that. And as a hiring person, you know as well.

There's a whole dance that goes on. If you say, "Oh, Morphius. He's great. We hated to lose him. He worked here from 2008 to 2011," that's all they need to hear. And if all you say is "Morphius was employed here from 2008 to 2011", the hiring employer knows how to interpret that as well. There's not much need for a more detailed conversation as long as everyone understands the code.

All about the questions you ask in a reference check, more specifically how you phrase the questions.

View Poll Results: Showing up late to a job interview is...
A sign that you don't want the job.	27	26.73%
A sign that you can't manage the basic requirements of life.	56	55.45%
A good negotiating strategy, since it shows that you don't need the job.	8	7.92%
A way to exert control over a situation that historically favors the hiring party.	4	3.96%
The way things work in the modern world. Only the uncool show up on time.	5	4.95%
Sometimes necessary if you're watching the end of a really good TV show.	5	4.95%
A colossally stupid move.	60	59.41%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

09-23-2014, 11:11 AM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Tip for Job Seekers Show up at your freakin' interview on time. Seriously. If you show up 45 minutes late to a JOB INTERVIEW, it makes a BAD IMPRESSION. I don't care if you missed your bus or overslept or had other things going on. I don't care at all. There are no excuses for being late to a job interview. Zero. If you were pulling people out of a burning car en route to the interview, that's great and I commend you for it, but it only takes three minutes to pull people out of a burning car. You should have planned ahead to be within sight of the interview location an hour before your interview. You should still be on time, but with a slight aroma of burning rubber and a great story for me. I guess possibly if you were on your way to an interview in Holland and you saw a dam breaking, and you put your finger in the dam, and it then took an hour for the dam repairers to show up, then that might be a feasible excuse since you saved countless lives. But I'd still want to see it on the news that evening, and I'd want to know that there were no other people around who could have switched fingers with you. Here's how you go to a job interview: 1. Drive to the interview with plans to be there an hour early. 2. Walk to the front door of the place an hour early just to be sure you know where it is. 3. Go to the nearest coffee shop and check out the company's web site and come up with some good questions and talking points. 4. Show up 10 minutes early. Sheesh. Humanity amazes me sometimes.
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10-15-2014, 11:40 AM	#183
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3485421	Ok had a job interview this morning at 9. I think it went pretty good. Gave myself plenty of time to get there and find my way. I dressed nice and was in front of a panel of three people. Did my best to answer the questions and also had to type out ten minutes on a computer of why I want to work there and also what would make them want to hire me. Welp I think I did good and all. I know the pay will be better than what I was making but also pretty much can get all the over time I want and that would be great. It sucks not having a job. It also sucks to wait to find out if I will be hired because I don't know if I should put out other job applications or not. I hate to ask a place for a job knowing I could be hired somewhere else but if that job doesn't hire me then I waist a week of finding employment. Go Royals keep my hopes up.
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10-15-2014, 11:47 AM	#184
KC native Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Casino cash: $10049239	I've only had one potential employer actually check my references. They offered me a job but the pay was shit and they wanted me to do the job and start a new line of business for them. The company was extremely small.
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10-15-2014, 12:24 PM	#185
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2092369	Potential employers don't give a **** about you. I'd say, if you haven't heard back on a specific job, you should continue looking. The only person you can count on to have your back is you.
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10-15-2014, 12:53 PM	#189
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4768454	Hiring managers. I'm doing some presentations to college students on the topic of mistakes made in the job search/interview process. I'd be interested to see a collection of your answers to these. 1. The resume'/initial contact 2. Interview mistakes that guarantee non-employment with you. Thank you.
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10-15-2014, 12:58 PM	#192
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4768454	I do check references fwiw. At least 1 contact per considered applicant. In my industry, I likely personally know someone who knows them or has worked with them.
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