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Old 04-09-2018, 11:55 AM  
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Khalil Mack possible hold out?
Not showing up to Raiders workouts that started today.

They are voluntary...but he just turned down a 100m offer from Oakland a few days ago and this is the first activities with Gruden.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:44 PM   #31
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They overpaid on Carr so hopefully, they will with Mack as well. He is not worth 130 million but, the Faders are dumb enough to give it to him.
He is young and an NFL def player of the year/all pro. He is a player any team would want to have and pay the contract they are going to pay.

They did not overpay for Carr. Franchise QB’s are hard to come by. The Raiders used a 2nd rd pick to draft Carr. Again, any team without a QB would love to have Carr with that contract. It’s what QB’s are worth.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:05 AM   #32
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They did not overpay for Carr. Franchise QB’s are hard to come by. The Raiders used a 2nd rd pick to draft Carr. Again, any team without a QB would love to have Carr with that contract. It’s what QB’s are worth.
They overpaid last year for the product they got.. Carr regressed to pretty much his rookie year.

That is a hell of a contract though.. they could cut Carr right now and only have 7.5M in dead cap. All the guaranteed money was in the first year and a half of the contract, with a very small signing bonus.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:20 AM   #33
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Hopefully, he will be traded to the Rams.

He is there best player by far. Without him, that defense is pretty poor.
Rams are going to be a high priority for my defense this season for fantasy football.
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He is young and an NFL def player of the year/all pro. He is a player any team would want to have and pay the contract they are going to pay.

They did not overpay for Carr. Franchise QB’s are hard to come by. The Raiders used a 2nd rd pick to draft Carr. Again, any team without a QB would love to have Carr with that contract. It’s what QB’s are worth.
I never said Mack was not a beast- but paying one player more than the entire rest of the defense put together rarely works out. Suh never lived up to that massive contract with Miami and because of injuries either has Watt or Houston. All three are better players.

Calling Carr a "Franchise" QB is a stretch for sure. That term gets thrown around for any young QB that entrenches himself in the starting role. The Faders have paid him like one of the top 3 in the NFL and he has never won shit. He has a losing record against good teams and has been banged up. I expect the Chiefs dominance over the Faders to continue as long as Carr is in there.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:28 AM   #36
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Would you risk getting hurt with 125 million staring you in the face? I sure wouldn't... Quite possible he won't be seen until June but they will sign him
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Would you risk getting hurt with 125 million staring you in the face? I sure wouldn't... Quite possible he won't be seen until June but they will sign him
Exactly, sign the big contract and then get hurt- that is the Fader way.
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Mack could get hurt working out on his own, however, I would do the same
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Exactly, sign the big contract and then get hurt- that is the Fader way.
No thats the NFL way
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No thats the NFL way
Seems like as soon as a player gets paid they disappear
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Exactly, sign the big contract and then get hurt- that is the Fader way.
and Houston as well.
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I never said Mack was not a beast- but paying one player more than the entire rest of the defense put together rarely works out. Suh never lived up to that massive contract with Miami and because of injuries either has Watt or Houston. All three are better players.
This is the philosophy I would employ if I were a GM.

I would rather have 3 $7 million dollar players..that are accessible. One goes down..you still have two.

Houston has been a giant bust ...thanks Parker. Berry has missed around 40 games.

Football is too violent to pay non-QBs that kind of money.

I'll go out on a limb and say this team without Berry/Houston...but with $30+ million (yearly) to buy young talent would be better off.

Neither one of those players are worth it anymore...their contracts are stupid.

Someone should do a top 5 PFF composite per position...salary vs.performance. It would interesting to see if money is being spent wisely...or on "name brand and hype".

PFF isnt the end all, be all....but its a subjective gauge.
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This is the philosophy I would employ if I were a GM.

I would rather have 3 $7 million dollar players..that are accessible. One goes down..you still have two.

Houston has been a giant bust ...thanks Parker. Berry has missed around 40 games.

Football is too violent to pay non-QBs that kind of money.

I'll go out on a limb and say this team without Berry/Houston...but with $30+ million (yearly) to buy young talent would be better off.

Neither one of those players are worth it anymore...their contracts are stupid.

Someone should do a top 5 PFF composite per position...salary vs.performance. It would interesting to see if money is being spent wisely...or on "name brand and hype".

PFF isnt the end all, be all....but its a subjective gauge.

I actually agree with this take. I think the best formula to consistently win is pretty simple: refuse to pay a huge contract for any position other than QB. Set a benchmark (maybe the 60th percentile? 65th?) and simply refuse to pay any higher than that for other positions. Use the savings to get the best QB and hang on to him for 10-15 years.

With the rules the way they are now, QB is where you get the most bang for the buck. The other positions, while important, are not so crucial that you need premium players there in order to consistently win.

I don't believe Houston has been worth the money. Yeah, he has a few brilliant games here and there, but if you can get 70% of that production for 40% of the money, you do it and spend the savings on a QB.
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Exactly, sign the big contract and then get hurt- that is the Fader way.
No...that's the Justin Houston way
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