Going to need Reaper16/NewChief to confirm...

[GloucesterChief]

Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.

I think most industrial fans laugh when people call NIN industrial, but regardless, your point stands about the genre having embraced dark themes since its inception.

EDIT: Fir the record, I love NIN, but they've always been Industrial Lite.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s.

Because Skinny Puppy was so cheery.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.

Skinny Puppy?
Pigface?

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

Skinny Puppy?
Pigface?

I was pointing out that Industrial has always had dark themes. It wasn't something that just came up in the 2000s.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I was pointing out that Industrial has always had dark themes. It wasn't something that just came up in the 2000s.

Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by Swanman

Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.

Fear Factory didn't exist before the '90s and the certainly weren't remotely industrial. Ministry borrowed from industrial and were proginators of the industrial metal scene, but again, not really industrial. Throbbing Gristle was industrial. Caberet Voltaire was industrial. Einsturzende Neubauten were industrial. All great bands, though hard to listen to at times.