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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-02-2015, 05:32 PM   #16
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:32 PM   #17
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I don't think he's as good as Gordon overall, but he is younger, and hits more homeruns.

Not sure he fits what KC typically tries to do, either, as he is not a great defensive guy and strikes out a ton.
This is where I am with him as well. I do wonder about guys like him if he gets in this Royals locker room where it does seem people don't **** around with any sort of crap. I also wonder if there was some laziness in San Diego with him, knowing he wasn't winning shit there. Also Heyward out of St. Louis.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:47 PM   #18
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:51 PM   #19
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If Ned retires?

I'd think there's a strong possibility it is either Raul Ibanez or Jason Kendall.

Kendall would make me a little nervous, as I think he's pretty old-school, and he's such a red-ass, I don't know how it would translate. Also, he has no experience managing a team.

Ibanez was a hot candidate last year and has a great rep as a leader and is someone who could conceivably maintain that strong clubhouse feel Yost has successfully built.

Not sure who else is out there.
I think Kendall would be a poor fit for this team. Ibanez is interesting. I still think Rusty Kuntz would be a good choice as well.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:54 PM   #20
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I don't think he's as good as Gordon overall, but he is younger, and hits more homeruns.

Not sure he fits what KC typically tries to do, either, as he is not a great defensive guy and strikes out a ton.
I don't know that we need 2 corner outfielders. Orlando is as good as Rios, IMO. We either extend Gordon, or we take the money we paid him and Rios and sign a replacement.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:06 PM   #21
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:06 PM   #22
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If Yost leaves this team, I see Dale Sveum stepping in as the replacement. If GMDM retires, I think Picollo takes over.

This team has been exciting for 2+ seasons and I don't see them slowing down.

As for free agency, we should be okay I believe. I read, not long ago actually, that the Royals make about 5-7 million per playoff game. With 8 home games, I'll say we made $48 million in "bonus" money. That doesn't include our attendance boost, which was 33,438, way up over last year's 24,154.
We have Guthrie coming off of the books, as long as we buyout his contract, which will save us $5.8m. I don't think we'll tender an offer to Holland, which is another $8.25m saved. Franklin Morales should be gone, which is $1.85m saved. And Alex Rios being gone will save us $11m.
That's roughly $26m off of the books in addition to the $48m from the playoffs, not including the extra money made during the regular season.
And if Vargas doesn't pitch in 2016, we have a $6m insurance policy on him as well.
This team can easily afford to sign Gordon and Zobrist. I'd personally stay away from Cueto unless you can get him for dirt cheap.

There's so many reasons to be optimistic about this team going forward. I know there's a lot of talk about 2017 and us losing the majority of the core, but I honestly think we'll be okay. I'm excited to see how long we can sustain this success.
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I would love Ibanez to replace Yost. Ibanez is the one who got the Royals to believe and turn around their season with his motivational speech in 2014!
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I'm so ****ing happy for Yost! The shit he went through in Milwaukee now winning a World Series where he was hand picked by GMDM. Who would of thought a few years ago we wanted to kick this guy out of the city and now he's probably going into the Royals hall of fame
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I'm so ****ing happy for Yost! The shit he went through in Milwaukee not to winning a World Series where he was hand picked by GMDM. Who would of thought a few years ago we wanted to kick this guy out of the city and now he's probably going into the Royals hall of fame
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