Chiefs We wanted Paxton Lynch - Page 4

CanadaKC · 08-03-2016, 08:59 PM

…this is probably old news here…but Lee Steinberg was on sports radio today saying how the Chiefs were scrambling to move up to get him, only to be outdone by the Broncos. We were actually thinking of drafting a QBOTF? Here's hoping we actually win one of these "trade up" scenarios and steal the player, rather than the enemy stealing him.

Mr. Laz · 08-03-2016, 09:55 PM

bullshit

RunKC · 08-03-2016, 10:02 PM

I believe this is how it went down:

Lynch was one of a small list of players we had highly rated and liked. Didn't think this before, but I believe Treadwell was on the list as the primary target due to our suckitude at the position last year.

Once he was off the board we reached out to see what it would cost to move up for Lynch, but decided to move back and get the picks/Chris Jones. The lack of capital hurt us but the flexibility of having more picks in a deep draft was too good of an offer to pass up, especially with all the losses we had from the offseason.

staylor26 · 08-03-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I believe this is how it went down:

Lynch was one of a small list of players we had highly rated and liked. Didn't think this before, but I believe Treadwell was on the list as the primary target due to our sickened at the position last year.

Once he was off the board we reached out to see what it would cost to move up for Lynch but decided to move back and get the picks/Chris Jones instead bc of the lack of capital as well as flexibility of having more picks in a deep draft.

So you're just going to completely ignore King's report too?

Also, if we wanted ****ing Treadwell over Lynch (which I also don't believe), I'm extremely glad we didn't take him.

Like I said, when a QB is your guy, he's your guy. You don't have him ranked under a WR that runs in the 4.6's.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-03-2016, 10:04 PM

What part of we weren't interested in him in the first don't people understand. Denver and Dallas were the only teams desperate enough to reach for him there.

BlackOp · 08-03-2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I believe this is how it went down:

Lynch was one of a small list of players we had highly rated and liked. Didn't think this before, but I believe Treadwell was on the list as the primary target due to our suckitude at the position last year.

Once he was off the board we reached out to see what it would cost to move up for Lynch but decided to move back and get the picks/Chris Jones instead bc of the lack of capital as well as flexibility of having more picks in a deep draft.

I find it REALLY hard to believe that Dorsey was even remotely interested in moving up for a project QB...in draft where he lost picks. I think he was always planning on moving down..it's how he works. He's an ex-scout...and the draft board is his opportunity to play chess.

staylor26 · 08-03-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I find it really hard to believe that Dorsey was interested in moving up for a project QB...in draft where he lost picks. I think he was always planning out moving down..it's how he works.

Dorsey hadn't traded down once and did it twice with our first two picks.

It was very obvious he wanted more picks, not less.

Mr. Laz · 08-03-2016, 10:14 PM

Everyone keeps trying to make Alex Smith some kind of stepping stone for the Chiefs.

He's not

Alex Smith is a no muss, no fuss QB who isn't going to cause Reid problems. That's what he wants.

Reid is an old coach who doesn't want a pain-in-the-ass QB on or off the field. Even if that means sacrificing some talent.

Andy Reid got his QB and he's fine with it ... get ****ing used to it

Mile High Mania · 08-03-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I guess MileHighMania would like to believe that KC brass was oblivious to Elway's situation..with Manning gone/Brock leaving...knowing Lynch was still on the board. They would never set-up a division rival like that...as I've said about their fan base...they like to play pretend a lot.

And you like to act as if everything Denver does was set up by KC or another team.

staylor26 · 08-03-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Everyone keeps trying to make Alex Smith some kind of stepping stone for the Chiefs.

He's not

Alex Smith is a no muss, no fuss QB who isn't going to cause Reid problems. That's what he wants.

Reid is an old coach who doesn't want a pain-in-the-ass QB on or off the field. Even if that means sacrificing some talent.

Andy Reid got his QB and he's fine with it ... get ****ing used to it

Just another reason I'm not buying the Lynch shit too.

We're still at least two years away from us going QB that early. They aren't going to do that with Alex.

RunKC · 08-03-2016, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I find it REALLY hard to believe that Dorsey was even remotely interested in moving up for a project QB...in draft where he lost picks. I think he was always planning on moving down..it's how he works. He's an ex-scout...and the draft board is his opportunity to play chess.

Chiefs didn't need Chris Jones, but he was a good value pick up for the future. We will most likely sign Poe and have our starters for the next 2 years at DL with Nick Williams/Roches behind them.

It makes all the sense in the world to have a QB like Lynch developing behind Alex for 2-3 years just like Rodgers. Alex is here for 3 more seasons on his contract. It's great timing.
It's also bullshit about "smart QB's". It is what it is...bullshit. McNabb got a 14 on the wonderlic. Vick was not smart at all.

Just bc the Chiefs talked to Dallas about trading down doesn't mean the Chiefs didn't call teams to discuss moving up for Lynch. That's most likely what happened. Dorsey called a team to ask what it would cost to move up for Lynch, the team told the media/Lynch's agent and that's where the rumor came from.

IMO if the Chiefs hadn't got ****ed by Roger, then we would have used our 3rd to trade up for Lynch with Dorsey's longtime friend, Seattle GM John Schneider, and then did the same trade down deal with our 2nd pick.

staylor26 · 08-03-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Chiefs didn't need Chris Jones, but he was a good value pick up for the future. We will most likely sign Poe and have our starters for the next 2 years at DL with Nick Williams/Roches behind them.

It makes all the sense in the world to have a QB like Lynch developing behind Alex for 2-3 years just like Rodgers. This bullshit about "smart QB's" is a show. It is what it is...bullshit. McNabb got a 14 on the wonderlic. Vick was not smart at all.

Just bc the Chiefs talked to Dallas about trading down doesn't mean the Chiefs didn't call teams to discuss moving up for Lynch. That's most likely what happened. Dorsey called a team to ask what it would cost to move up for Lynch, the team told the media/Lynch's agent and that's where the rumor came from.

IMO if the Chiefs hadn't got ****ed by Roger, then we would have used our 3rd to trade up for Lynch with Dorsey's longtime friend, Seattle GM John Schneider, and then did the same trade down deal with our 2nd pick.

What do you not get about the Dallas trade being contingent upon Lynch being there at 28?

Dorsey essentially called Dallas up to say "You can have Lynch if he makes it here, but we want a 3rd rounder."

Does it makes sense that he was also trying to trade up for Lynch knowing this?

Both of these more than likely aren't true. One we know from somebody who was in the actual war on when it happened with no reason to lie, the other is from an agent with a motive to lie. If both things happened, the most likely reason is Dorsey was sending smoke screens to get Elway to trade up.

CanadaKC · 08-03-2016, 10:42 PM

Steinberg IS Lynch's agent…so there's that.

BlackOp · 08-03-2016, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

What do you not get about the Dallas trade being contingent upon Lynch being there at 28?

Dorsey essentially called Dallas up to say "You can have Lynch if he makes it here, but we want a 3rd rounder."

Does it makes sense that he was also trying to trade up for Lynch knowing this?

Both of these more than likely aren't true. One we know from somebody who was in the actual war on when it happened with no reason to lie, the other is from an agent with a motive to lie. If both things happened, the most likely reason is Dorsey was sending smoke screens to get Elway to trade up.

Dont bother trying to explain cat-n-mouse strategy around here...people want believe that these old school NFL ****ers running the Chiefs are on the same experience level as they are ...typing from their living room. Elway got played out of desperation..and taken to the woodshed by a real GM.

Mile High Mania · 08-04-2016, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Dont bother trying to explain cat-n-mouse strategy around here...people want believe that these old school NFL ****ers running the Chiefs are on the same experience level as they are ...typing from their living room. Elway got played out of desperation..and taken to the woodshed by a real GM.

That's good stuff.

Chiefs=Champions · 08-04-2016, 04:54 AM

This garcia guy is getting absolutely embarrassed in this thread. Suppose being a fan of a winning team doesn't make you smart, just lucky.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2239611	I believe this is how it went down: Lynch was one of a small list of players we had highly rated and liked. Didn't think this before, but I believe Treadwell was on the list as the primary target due to our suckitude at the position last year. Once he was off the board we reached out to see what it would cost to move up for Lynch, but decided to move back and get the picks/Chris Jones. The lack of capital hurt us but the flexibility of having more picks in a deep draft was too good of an offer to pass up, especially with all the losses we had from the offseason. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Everyone keeps trying to make Alex Smith some kind of stepping stone for the Chiefs. He's not Alex Smith is a no muss, no fuss QB who isn't going to cause Reid problems. That's what he wants. Reid is an old coach who doesn't want a pain-in-the-ass QB on or off the field. Even if that means sacrificing some talent. Andy Reid got his QB and he's fine with it ... get ****ing used to it __________________
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CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6598668	Steinberg IS Lynch's agent…so there's that.
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