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Old 02-06-2014, 10:32 PM  
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Dorsey is a FAKE

Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:44 AM   #91
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I like John Dorsey. He would be the first man to travel to Mars if he thought there was a Martian free agent who could help the team. But to give the Exec of the Year to a GM in his first year seems more than silly. The real impact of a GM is after year three. The NFL should just now be awarding the 2010 Exec of the Year.
My original point was that if ANYBODY associated with the Chiefs deserved an award, it was ANDY REID.
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:47 AM   #92
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My original point was that if ANYBODY associated with the Chiefs deserved an award, it was ANDY REID.
I agree. Although Clark should get an Owner of the Year award if there is such a thing.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:02 AM   #93
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SNR? Been a long time contributer to his board, provided takes agreeable and disagree-able to many on many topics, provided humor (once or twice) and spirited debate (maybe once). So the real question is, "what have you done, NWO "
That's all I get? I gave you people the celebrity voice thread!

What the hell does it take to get some respect around here?
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:10 AM   #94
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That's all I get? I gave you people the celebrity voice thread!

What the hell does it take to get some respect around here?
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:44 AM   #95
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I really don't have a problem with people being hopeful about Fisher.

It just irks me when people say "he's gonna be fine" or "he's going to be a good LT" when the evidence suggests otherwise at this point.
But that's just as bad as declaring him a bust already, as many have. And the amount of exaggeration for how bad he was. In the second half of the season, he went from completely terrible to serviceable.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:49 AM   #96
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But that's just as bad as declaring him a bust already, as many have. And the amount of exaggeration for how bad he was. In the second half of the season, he went from completely terrible to serviceable.
The people that think he might be a bust have infinitely more evidence to support their position.

You can't say he was serviceable when he couldn't even stay on the field...
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #97
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The people that think he might be a bust have infinitely more evidence to support their position.

You can't say he was serviceable when he couldn't even stay on the field...
Allowed significantly fewer sacks that way.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:19 AM   #98
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I agree. Although Clark should get an Owner of the Year award if there is such a thing.
There used to be an owner of the year award but they did away with it in 1865.
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But that's just as bad as declaring him a bust already, as many have. And the amount of exaggeration for how bad he was. In the second half of the season, he went from completely terrible to serviceable.
I think Fischer is serviceable. But when you take an offensive lineman with the first pick in the draft, you kind of expect dominant, not serviceable.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:25 AM   #100
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One guy who deserves credit is Will Lewis. He was promoted to VP of Football Operations when Seattle's GM was hired in 2010 and then Dorsey got him here last spring.
I think he played a big part, especially in getting Duck Dynasty, who was with Seattle in preseason.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:28 AM   #101
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I think Fischer is serviceable. But when you take an offensive lineman with the first pick in the draft, you kind of expect dominant, not serviceable.
There is no Fischer on the roster
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:31 AM   #102
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Dorsey has to change the entire working environment in KC. The losing atmosphere was infectious!
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:34 AM   #103
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Dorsey has to change the entire working environment in KC. The losing atmosphere was infectious!
1) Andy Reid is as much, if not more, a part of that.

2) They went to the playoffs in YEAR ONE. The idea that they have to "clean house" is way overestimated.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:41 AM   #104
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1) Andy Reid is as much, if not more, a part of that.

2) They went to the playoffs in YEAR ONE. The idea that they have to "clean house" is way overestimated.
I agree. A house cleaning is not necessary; however, they do have to identify which players are content with losing and collecting a paycheck. It is inevitable that some would have developed that perspective over time. Those have to go.
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I agree. A house cleaning is not necessary; however, they do have to identify which players are content with losing and collecting a paycheck. It is inevitable that some would have developed that perspective over time. Those have to go.
Those players didn't prevent them from going 11-5 and making the playoffs.
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