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Old 02-06-2014, 10:32 PM  
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Dorsey is a FAKE
Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:40 PM   #181
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Tavon Austin in our O and on our STs would be SICK!!!

He certainly had Indy's #.

I'm still rooting for Fisher's development, but Austin is a bona fide asset.

If he can stay healthy, I see I cross between Devon Hester and Steve Smith in his future.
If we're gonna do the, I wish we had drafted this guy, thing. I'd have taken Keenan Allen at the top of the third. He's better than Austin.
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:41 PM   #182
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If we're gonna do the, I wish we had drafted this guy, thing. I'd have taken Keenan Allen at the top of the third. He's better than Austin.
Could you imagine Austin, Allen, and Bowe to go with Charles? Christ.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:16 PM   #183
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let's be real.. if chiefs some how got past the pats/broncos.. seahawks were going to slaughter you, and that's meant as no insult.. no afc team, hell most NFC teams can't match up against their defense this year. This draft is full of great offensive and defensive players. Don't give up on Dorsey yet.

What? The dinosaur Carson Palmer beat Seattle at Seattle. They're not invincible.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:48 PM   #184
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let's be real.. if chiefs some how got past the pats/broncos.. seahawks were going to slaughter you, and that's meant as no insult.. no afc team, hell most NFC teams can't match up against their defense this year. This draft is full of great offensive and defensive players. Don't give up on Dorsey yet.
Yet, Alex Smith won up there in 2011.

Beat them in 2012 too.

Alex Smith unlike some other qbs wont give the Seahawks the easy turnovers. Alex Smith is one of the qbs that would be seattles worst night mares. And you know it, and I know it. Stats be damned. He always made the right play, at the right time to beat them.
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:56 PM   #185
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After our losing record next season the board will be calling for Alex Smith's head.

Believe it.
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Old 02-08-2014, 04:00 PM   #186
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After our losing record next season the board will be calling for Alex Smith's head.

Believe it.
Only if he has TD/INT ratio that's substantially worse than 1:1.

I think he'll continue to game manage his way through the season with most of his starts resembling games against Houston, Cleveland, Buffalo and the first Denver game more so than a game like we saw against Indianapolis in the postseason.
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Old 02-08-2014, 04:04 PM   #187
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I don't really have a problem with people being pessimistic about Fisher.

it just irks me when people say "he's horrible" or "he's never going to be a good LT" when evidence just doesn't confirm anything except he made progress at this point.


The most damning evidence is him not even being on the field most of the 2nd half of the season.

Stop pretending to be cute, it's dumb.
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Old 02-08-2014, 04:07 PM   #188
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Stephenson was okay for most of the season. Don't know where this "way better" bullshit is coming from. He played better for a guy who was healthy and for a guy who was walking into his 2nd season, versus a guy playing a new position, playing hurt most of the season, and in a shortened offseason.

JFC. He was a ****ing rookie. I hope like hell we never draft a QB, because this place is going to be flipping their shit every time a rookie QB makes a mistake.
The offense had bar FAR its best performance with Fisher on the injury list.
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Old 02-08-2014, 04:10 PM   #189
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I'm not a fan of the fisher pick. I just can't stand the people on cp who have this ridiculous double standard. Fisher is a gigantic bust because he didn't look great in his rookie campaign. Who would others have taken? Geno, Jordan, or Austin. Who, guess what... Didn't have very 1.1 type rookie campaigns. People rip on fisher because all tackles should be nfl ready, and yet joeckl looked even worse and he was supposed to be the safer pick.
Dude, go **** yourself.

The "reason" given for why Fisher was a good pick was because tackles are "high floor" guys that can contribute right away.

THAT is why people rip on the Fisher pick.
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The offense had bar FAR its best performance with Fisher on the injury list.
The offensive resurgence has a lot more to do with Alex Smith elevating his play than Fisher. Fisher was part of the strong offensive performances against Denver, Washington, and Oakland too. And the first Colts game, Fisher didn't play great, but the guy who really got handled was Stephenson at Left Tackle.

Fisher got off to a rough start. In midseason, he had an insanely difficult schedule that featured JJ Watt, Von Miller twice, the Browns' outstanding offensive line, the Colts, and even the Redskins and Bills' lines are nothing to slouch at.

He has an extremely long way to go, but he wasn't nearly as bad as people are making him out to be, and he clearly got better against a pretty brutal schedule.
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The most damning evidence is him not even being on the field most of the 2nd half of the season.

Stop pretending to be cute, it's dumb.
Careful, you're going to bring down the wrath of Laz.
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The offensive resurgence has a lot more to do with Alex Smith elevating his play than Fisher. Fisher was part of the strong offensive performances against Denver, Washington, and Oakland too. And the first Colts game, Fisher didn't play great, but the guy who really got handled was Stephenson at Left Tackle.

Fisher got off to a rough start. In midseason, he had an insanely difficult schedule that featured JJ Watt, Von Miller twice, the Browns' outstanding offensive line, the Colts, and even the Redskins and Bills' lines are nothing to slouch at.

He has an extremely long way to go, but he wasn't nearly as bad as people are making him out to be, and he clearly got better against a pretty brutal schedule.
Excuses. All of them.

Tackles drafted that high shouldn't struggle, period. It's the ONLY reason to take one that high, the ONLY reason.

Horrible pick, there's no way to spin out of it.
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If we're gonna do the, I wish we had drafted this guy, thing. I'd have taken Keenan Allen at the top of the third. He's better than Austin.
We're not doing that game. We're just imagining what this team could be if we didn't draft piece of shit offensive linemen and #1 ****ing overall.
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Excuses. All of them.

Tackles drafted that high shouldn't struggle, period. It's the ONLY reason to take one that high, the ONLY reason.

Horrible pick, there's no way to spin out of it.
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Dude, go **** yourself.

The "reason" given for why Fisher was a good pick was because tackles are "high floor" guys that can contribute right away.

THAT is why people rip on the Fisher pick.
That's total horse shit. So if Fisher hypothetically becomes an all pro by year 3, we should call him a bust because he wasn't NFL ready? Dude, they passed on the safe pick, which was Joeckl. Who by the way, was worse than Fisher. NOBODY expected Fisher to contribute right away having come from a small school and playing a completely different position.

And most people here aren't giving reasons Fisher was a good pick. I hated the pick. I'm just tired of people treating him to this ridiculous standard, when in fact most of the players we advocated for sucked just as badly in their rookie season. Guess what... they're all rookies. So I don't give a shit how well Austin, Fisher, or Jordan did this season.
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