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Old 02-06-2014, 10:32 PM  
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Dorsey is a FAKE
Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:47 PM   #121
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None of the top 10 players picked would have improved the team any better, and 32 teams would have either taken Joeckel or Fisher at #1 had they been in the same position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
That's some excellent speculating.

Edit: I'm also curious as to your reasoning for limiting the alternate choices to "top 10 players picked".
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:06 PM   #122
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None of the top 10 players picked would have improved the team any better, and 32 teams would have either taken Joeckel or Fisher at #1 had they been in the same position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft
I would rather have Ziggy Ansah, Bark Mingo, hell even Tavon Austin would be perfect control depth for our departing FA McCluster.

I'd even take Fluker or Lane Johnson over the RT we got, as they have looked 1000x better than Fisher this season. Outside of the top 10, Sheldon Richardson and Star is a crime that they slipped that far.

That's the problem with Fisher, he's not even going to be the best TACKLE out of this draft.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:11 PM   #123
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I would rather have Ziggy Ansah, Bark Mingo, hell even Tavon Austin would be perfect control depth for our departing FA McCluster.

I'd even take Fluker or Lane Johnson over the RT we got, as they have looked 1000x better than Fisher this season. Outside of the top 10, Sheldon Richardson and Star is a crime that they slipped that far.

That's the problem with Fisher, he's not even going to be the best TACKLE out of this draft.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:19 PM   #124
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That's the problem with Fisher, he's not even going to be the best TACKLE out of this draft.
1 season at a position he had not played before tells you everything?
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:37 PM   #125
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Fisher was without question the best OT prospect in this draft. If you doubt this then I suggest you watch the Senior Bowl when he owned everyone. He was far more athletic than Joeckel. Lane Johnson might be better, but I still would take Fisher bc he has that nasty streak to him.
Fisher will be putting on strength and weight this offseason. Let's see how that works out.

Also for the pillow biters saying to draft another position at 1.1, what's your plan for LT? Albert wants to be fat paid and he was hurt off and on all year. You pay him then you struggle to get more money to players like Justin Houston without making moves on other good players.

I'm fine with not taking a WR last year. This might be the best WR class in draft history.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:52 PM   #126
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I would rather have Ziggy Ansah, Bark Mingo, hell even Tavon Austin would be perfect control depth for our departing FA McCluster.

I'd even take Fluker or Lane Johnson over the RT we got, as they have looked 1000x better than Fisher this season. Outside of the top 10, Sheldon Richardson and Star is a crime that they slipped that far.

That's the problem with Fisher, he's not even going to be the best TACKLE out of this draft.
You sort of had me til Austin.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:57 PM   #127
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And the whole, we could have drafted player A, but instead we got sucky player B, Can happen for most teams in every draft and goes nowhere. I say, give this entire class at least another year. To not do so is dumb.
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1 season at a position he had not played before tells you everything?
So far so bad
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You sort of had me til Austin.
Austin would be perfect right now for our team. Replaces McCluster and we wouldnt have to be desperate trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit for a slot WR by plicking some 29 year old from the CFL or Joe McKnight for a future reserve contract
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1 season at a position he had not played before tells you everything?
the original posts states "none of the players in the top 10 would have improved the team any better" so I was judging players off year 1, that would have improved us in their first season.

so yes, the judgement was based off their rookie year. The argument is are their players picked after Fisher better than him in year 1? And I'm in the argument of, yes some are right now until Fisher proves otherwise.
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so all things equal right now, you wouldn't trade/swap Fisher for any other player in the top 10?

i find that hard to believe
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