The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entr...happelle-show/

@TheJeffReport convince me that the Chiefs not drafting a QB number one overall is the smart thing to do #TwitterTuesday
The inconvenient truth is that the Chiefs stunk one year too late. The NFL personnel community is unanimous that there is no sure franchise quarterback in this draft, and drafting a guy first overall won’t change that.

I’ve been pretty consistent on this: the Chiefs NEED to upgrade at quarterback during the offseason, but I don’t care how they do it. If they decide their own needs plus a particular quarterback’s ability is worth the first pick, then cool. But if they decide they can get a worthy quarterback later in the draft, or through a trade, then they should do that.

But taking a guy first overall won’t make him Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or even Eli Manning. It might just mean they spent the highest NFL pick in franchise history on a guy they could’ve had in the second round.

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I'm sorry but I'm not just reading this shit from "National Guys" or whatnot.

At this point, there is no consensus.

Mellinger says this:

But taking a guy first overall won’t make him Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or even Eli Manning. It might just mean they spent the highest [B]NFL pick in franchise history on a guy they could’ve had in the second round.

He's getting the argument completely wrong. Andrew Luck and the Manning brothers aren't the standard. They're the exception.

Cam Newton had WAAAY more problems than Geno Smith coming out of college. Sam Bradford was (and still is) a broke dick who comes from a shitty QB school. Matt Stafford had the knock of being too reckless and throwing too many picks. He apparently still has that problem.

#1 overall doesn't mean you're a flawless prospect. It means you're the player that can most change a team's fortunes.

And that's Geno. Mellinger is a reerun if he doesn't think Geno is on the scale or better than the #1 overall guys I mentioned above.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SNR

And that's Geno. Mellinger is a reerun if he doesn't think Geno is on the scale or better than the #1 overall guys I mentioned above.

I know.

But just the other day, earlier in this thread, I mentioned that many people feel like Smith is a 2nd round talent in any other draft, and was met with "Those are internet idiots" or "Yeah, but NOW, it's different".

Anyway, I thought it was somewhat pertinent to the discussion to post Smellinger's viewpoint.

Not an indictment.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I know.

But just the other day, earlier in this thread, I mentioned that many people feel like Smith is a 2nd round talent in any other draft, and was met with "Those are internet idiots" or "Yeah, but NOW, it's different".

Anyway, I thought it was somewhat pertinent to the discussion to post Smellinger's viewpoint.

Not an indictment.

Geno wouldn't be a 2nd round talent in 2012, which was considered to be the gold standard of QB classes.

At least I don't think he would be. I mean... Tannehill and Weeden over Geno? Please. That's far-fetched.

Statements like "Geno is a 2nd round talent in any other year" are just hater bullshit. It's a stretch to say that just as much as it's a stretch to say he's flawless.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SNR

Statements like "Geno is a 2nd round talent in any other year" are just hater bullshit. It's a stretch to say that just as much as it's a stretch to say he's flawless.

I think it's interesting.

Interesting, because the word on the street is that none of these QB's are truly "First round talent". Interesting, that "No QB is worth 1.1", etc.

The Chiefs can take whomever they wish at 1.1, so I don't think they're pushing this propaganda.

So it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Interesting, because the word on the street is that none of these QB's are truly "First round talent". Interesting, that "No QB is worth 1.1", etc.

Apparently you haven't been to NFL Network street, because they have him going #1.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Apparently you haven't been to NFL Network street, because they have him going #1.

Why do they have him going #1? Why do you care?

I don't give a shit what the NFL Network thinks because their job is to be "right". Mayock was Aaron Curry's biggest fan and he was "right" but Curry sucked ass. I told everyone that would listen that he would suck but after he was chosen, it was irrelevant.

As I've said all along, the Combines will give all NFL fans a better idea of where players will be drafted. Smith will participate in all of the drills, so the picture should be much clearer after they're complete.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why do they have him going #1? Why do you care?

Just trying to refute your statement that "WORD ON THE STREET IS ALL THE QBS SUCK HERP DERP."

People have been mocking Geno in the top 10 for months and the number of people doing it is now rising.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's interesting.

Interesting, because the word on the street is that none of these QB's are truly "First round talent". Interesting, that "No QB is worth 1.1", etc.

The Chiefs can take whomever they wish at 1.1, so I don't think they're pushing this propaganda.

So it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Absolutely. When it comes down to it, the Chiefs are the Chiefs. They're not the 0-16 Detroit Lions or the 1-15 Rams. They're the Chiefs, with a (presumably) re-signed Brandon Albert and two pretty solid pass rushers.

It's their pick to use. Mel's big board can go **** itself.