Chiefs Andy Reid on Mike & Mike: "Alex is our quarterback by the way" - Page 5

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-26-2017, 09:10 AM

Don't want to read too much into the conversation but just watched Andy on M&M this morning and he made it clear that Alex was the QB. Mentioned that he could still play, was at the Pro Bowl (

), and can do all the things he wants his guy to do.

In essence, we can put any talk of Tony Romo, Nick Foles, or any other retread to bed. But, they did talk about college system QBs briefly (no one specific), and he said that as long as they feel like a guy can learn, it is their job to transition a college system QB and that it doesn't effect their decision on which type to take.

So, will we draft a QB? Idk, my bet is on yes since Foles is apparently gone.

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2017, 11:03 AM

15 TDs is peaking. Got it.

Buns · 01-26-2017, 11:05 AM

I hope Andy and Dorsey beat this drum all year and then we take two QBs in the first four rounds and then the next day Alex retires before his eggs get scrambled.

**Rausch** · 01-26-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

There's a difference between giving things a chance and liking them as optimum solutions.

Of the 3, Haley was the most aggressive and skilled in his vocation, that's not to say gifted.

I would argue he was much less experienced than Pissholi and Clearly gifted his position due to his name.

Me and you couldn't take 3 pro bowl WR's and a HOF QB and make them a SB team but most OC's (not named Reid) could.

He now finds himself in a very similar position in Pitt...

**ptlyon** · 01-26-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

15 TDs is peaking. Got it.

Meat peeking, maybe

**Baby Lee** · 01-26-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I would argue he was much less experienced than Pissholi and Clearly gifted his position due to his name.

Me and you couldn't take 3 pro bowl WR's and a HOF QB and make them a SB team but most OC's (not named Reid) could.

He now finds himself in a very similar position in Pitt...

I said 'of the 3' not of all OCs, let alone Reid.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2017, 11:07 AM

If the Chiefs go into the season with Alex Smith as the starter, we can fully expect a 10-12 win season and an early, if not One And Done, playoff exist.

He's hit his ceiling and is in decline. Even if the Chiefs were to get massive improvement from the guards, a dynamic running back and a wide receiver that's in Hill's stratosphere, Alex would be unable to take advantage of those weapons.

It's truly time to move on because we've all seen how this movie ends.

Fish · 01-26-2017, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No he isn't. This is the first year of his deal that cutting him actually creates a significant financial advantage.

Cut him before 3/11 when his roster bonus is due and the Chiefs will save right at $10 million. If they're able to put a June 1 tag on him (though that seems unlikely as 3/11 is the start of the new league year so I doubt you can put a June 1 designation in what is technically the 2016 league year), they'd save almost $14 million.

Smith can easily be cut and, IMO, should be.

There's no way in hell the Chiefs are going to cut him before the draft. 0% chance.

**Rausch** · 01-26-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I said 'of the 3' not of all OCs, let alone Reid.

I wouldn't say skilled but I would agree on aggressive.

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

There's no way in hell the Chiefs are going to cut him before the draft. 0% chance.

Unless they think that Foles can do the same job that Smith did last year.

Fish · 01-26-2017, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Unless they think that Foles can do the same job that Smith did last year.

It's not the Chiefs way to make that kind of gamble. Even though they should....

**Rausch** · 01-26-2017, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Unless they think that Foles can do the same job that Smith did last year.

And I think he would fall short. He likely would have.

And I don't think there's a chance in hell Alex isn't our starter next year...

DJ's left nut · 01-26-2017, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Unless they think that Foles can do the same job that Smith did last year.

Exactly.

I wish they'd have just guaranteed $2 million of his salary that triggers on 3/11 rather than offering him a $2 million roster bonus.

The guaranteed salary trigger would travel with Smith if traded after the draft. The roster bonus is just absorbed. It wouldn't have made a difference to Smith either way as he'd still be getting his $2 million, though I guess he wouldn't have gotten it in a single check.

That said, as you've noted, they could easily determine that Foles is preferable to Smith and I still think the structure of Foles deal was with the mind that they could make exactly that decision.

If they thought there was zero chance that Foles stays instead of Smith, that 2nd year wouldn't have been almost exactly the same as their saved cap in the event Smith is cut. that contract was constructed in a manner that allows them to maintain the same cap structure regardless of who they chose.

And that tells me that they at least considered the possibility that there was a choice to be made.

I'm not closing that door just yet.

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2017, 11:15 AM

Cutting Foles outright versus cutting Smith would only increase the cap by $1M. I'm holding out hope that they:

1. Cut or trade Smith.
2. Keep Foles.
3. Draft a QB in the 1st round.

Let the rookie and Foles battle it out in TC.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-26-2017, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If the Chiefs go into the season with Alex Smith as the starter, we can fully expect a 10-12 win season and an early, if not One And Done, playoff exist.

He's hit his ceiling and is in decline. Even if the Chiefs were to get massive improvement from the guards, a dynamic running back and a wide receiver that's in Hill's stratosphere, Alex would be unable to take advantage of those weapons.

It's truly time to move on because we've all seen how this movie ends.

Maclin had a career efficient season in year one with Smith ... Kelce leads tight ends in production...
That's not taking advantage of weapons?

OK, guy.

ThaVirus · 01-26-2017, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No he isn't. This is the first year of his deal that cutting him actually creates a significant financial advantage.

Cut him before 3/11 when his roster bonus is due and the Chiefs will save right at $10 million. If they're able to put a June 1 tag on him (though that seems unlikely as 3/11 is the start of the new league year so I doubt you can put a June 1 designation in what is technically the 2016 league year), they'd save almost $14 million.

Smith can easily be cut and, IMO, should be.

Cut?

Surely we could net something for him in a trade if Sam Bradford was moved for a 1st rounder.

01-26-2017, 09:10 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9129447	Andy Reid on Mike & Mike: "Alex is our quarterback by the way" Don't want to read too much into the conversation but just watched Andy on M&M this morning and he made it clear that Alex was the QB. Mentioned that he could still play, was at the Pro Bowl (), and can do all the things he wants his guy to do. In essence, we can put any talk of Tony Romo, Nick Foles, or any other retread to bed. But, they did talk about college system QBs briefly (no one specific), and he said that as long as they feel like a guy can learn, it is their job to transition a college system QB and that it doesn't effect their decision on which type to take. So, will we draft a QB? Idk, my bet is on yes since Foles is apparently gone.
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	If the Chiefs go into the season with Alex Smith as the starter, we can fully expect a 10-12 win season and an early, if not One And Done, playoff exist. He's hit his ceiling and is in decline. Even if the Chiefs were to get massive improvement from the guards, a dynamic running back and a wide receiver that's in Hill's stratosphere, Alex would be unable to take advantage of those weapons. It's truly time to move on because we've all seen how this movie ends.
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01-26-2017, 11:15 AM	#73
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3105047	Cutting Foles outright versus cutting Smith would only increase the cap by $1M. I'm holding out hope that they: 1. Cut or trade Smith. 2. Keep Foles. 3. Draft a QB in the 1st round. Let the rookie and Foles battle it out in TC.
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