Andy Reid on Mike & Mike: "Alex is our quarterback by the way"

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Don't want to read too much into the conversation but just watched Andy on M&M this morning and he made it clear that Alex was the QB. Mentioned that he could still play, was at the Pro Bowl (), and can do all the things he wants his guy to do.

In essence, we can put any talk of Tony Romo, Nick Foles, or any other retread to bed. But, they did talk about college system QBs briefly (no one specific), and he said that as long as they feel like a guy can learn, it is their job to transition a college system QB and that it doesn't effect their decision on which type to take.

So, will we draft a QB? Idk, my bet is on yes since Foles is apparently gone.

[Baby Lee]

Serious, and I hope something that goes to the heart of this issue, DJ [since you're presently the one espousing the 'needs a perfect team' line], do you think that anyone who moved on at any point in the playoffs this year put out an INFERIOR TEAM EFFORT to the Chiefs against Pitt, only to be salvaged by superior QB play?

[kcxiv]

Thats the thing, Smith won lose you games, but he will very rarely win you games. He will very very rarely take a game over with his arm. I learned quite a few years back, that in order to win a Superbowl without and Elite QB you have to have an insane defense and have absolutely everything go your way. If they do not happen, you are ****ed. Elite QB's have so much more room for error.

We have seen this over and over and over being a Chiefs fan.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Thats the thing, Smith won lose you games, but he will very rarely win you games. He will very very rarely take a game over with his arm. I learned quite a few years back, that in order to win a Superbowl without and Elite QB you have to have an insane defense and have absolutely everything go your way. If they do not happen, you are ****ed. Elite QB's have so much more room for error. We have seen this over and over and over being a Chiefs fan.

Alex Smith basically lost the Tampa and Tennessee games with horrific end zone INT's.

[Baby Lee]

I might add, I'm getting more confused than ever.

At one point, we had the ridiculous notion that the Chiefs should just ignore everything save a dogged effort to unearth the next Brady. Rummage through the QB pile like looking for a super battery in a pile of batteries, until we find one who simply can't lose, ever. Pay him to play here forever and assemble the rest of the team from scraps

Now, we're developing this 'well if Alex is mediocre. Why not be mediocre for cheap?' Just go out and round up journeymen and find someone who isn't too big a **** up who will play for peanuts. That way we can build a 'great' team by paying big bucks for talent at other positions.

These seem to be completely inapposite positions, sharing only the DNA of being tired of not having a QB carousel of home grown candidates.

I myself am not all that put out that Alex makes decent starting veteran money. I'm always on the prowl for the next big thing, and always amenable to someone who can legit unseat him. But until then, this teeth gnashing about the QB position, wishy-washy about an alternative strategy seems like just so many world-weary soldiers with plenty of gripes, but without a solution.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Serious, and I hope something that goes to the heart of this issue, DJ [since you're presently the one espousing the 'needs a perfect team' line], do you think that anyone who moved on at any point in the playoffs this year put out an INFERIOR TEAM EFFORT to the Chiefs against Pitt, only to be salvaged by superior QB play?

Having not watched the entire Packers game but seeing only parts of it, from what I watched, the Packers played as poorly against Dallas as the Chiefs played against Pittsburgh, yes.

And Rodgers pretty much pulled them from the fire. He gave them their second chance and they squandered it by playing poorly again.

But again, how long before it becomes a trend? Because like I said, that's 3 straight 1-score games where the answer has been the same "well his teammates just didn't play well enough". Okay, but it was a 1 score game and there's a single guy on the field that could've made a big impact there - and all three times he didn't.

You ask why I should believe that he will fail the next time and my question to you is why do you believe he'll succeed? Because THAT'S what I need. If you're going to commit to an aging QB that's now 0/3 in his opportunities to step up big for his teammates in KC, what do you base that on but blind faith? Or is it just fear of a worse alternative?

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

u really feel that's what I am doing?

u have a differing opinion on a football related matter, so you come at me with this... and that means I am making an ass of myself?

An Ass Clown yes.



I get that your opinions are different than mine I welcome different opinions but the way you two go on about Alex Smith being so great is ridiculous at best.

No one is buying that he is that good to get us to hold a Lamar Trophy and winning a Vince Lombardi Trophy. That's what we want.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I might add, I'm getting more confused than ever.

At one point, we had the ridiculous notion that the Chiefs should just ignore everything save a dogged effort to unearth the next Brady. Rummage through the QB pile like looking for a super battery in a pile of batteries, until we find one who simply can't lose, ever.

Now, we're developing this 'well if Alex is mediocre. Why not be mediocre for cheap?' Just go out and round up journeymen and find someone who isn't too big a **** up who will play for peanuts.

These seem to be completely inapposite positions, sharing only the DNA of being tired of not having a QB carousel of home grown candidates.

Why do you believe them to be mutually exclusive in a cap league? Of course they're related.

Option A) Get baller-ass QB, increase your margin for error when your team plays a C- game so you can survive and advance in the hopes that the next game is at least a B+ game.

Option B) Get game-manager QB at cheaper price, allocate funds to the rest of the roster to at least improve the odds of having a B- game and being good enough to survive.

They're not inapposite; they're alternative pleadings - I prefer A but if I can't have A, let's try B.

Doesn't seem that complicated to me.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Hands down the most ignorant folk.

Perfect description of the Alex Smith Apologists.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why do you believe them to be mutually exclusive in a cap league? Of course they're related.

Option A) Get baller-ass QB, increase your margin for error when your team plays a C- game so you can survive and advance in the hopes that the next game is at least a B+ game.

Option B) Get game-manager QB at cheaper price, allocate funds to the rest of the roster to at least improve the odds of having a B- game and being good enough to survive.

They're not inapposite; they're alternative pleadings - I prefer A but if I can't have A, let's try B.

Doesn't seem that complicated to me.

Babbly Lee thinks drafting the Matt Blundins, Steve Matthews, Steve Stenstroms, Pat Barnes, James Killians, Brodie Croyles, Ricky Stanzis, Aaron Murrays and Kevin Hogans of the draft is the best option.

Can't risk picks on a QB when you need the rest of the roster to be perfect to make up for the weaknesses of a retread QB.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I'm happy for the wins but accepting mediocrity isn't my thing

Well at least we can agree on two things:

1. winning is happy
2. Chiefs desperately NEED a QBotF on the roster by May.

I don't think Smith is a special talent or irreplaceable either, but I do think people prefer to overlook other glaring team deficiencies by focusing too much blame on him.

Well by all means, go ahead. Just save the befuddlement of why Dorsey and Reid keep trotting him out there. You know why.. you just don't want to accept that your focus is misplaced.

The Chiefs... as they were.. were not a team that had it all going on, minus a QB.

Maaaaaaaaybe... they were a team that had enough going on, for an elite QB... but that's a stretch.

Team is still one of the top 5 of the AFC. Just needs major work/luck on... above all... staying healthy. Next up is loosening up on the conservative/sideways offense... FORCE this QB to take the shots OR ELSE... then, fix the dropped passes.. then fix the run blocking.

... and someone teach Fisher how to block 50 yr old pass rushers.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why do you believe them to be mutually exclusive in a cap league? Of course they're related.

Option A) Get baller-ass QB, increase your margin for error when your team plays a C- game so you can survive and advance in the hopes that the next game is at least a B+ game.

Option B) Get game-manager QB at cheaper price, allocate funds to the rest of the roster to at least improve the odds of having a B- game and being good enough to survive.

They're not inapposite; they're alternative pleadings - I prefer A but if I can't have A, let's try B.

Doesn't seem that complicated to me.

My point is that, Dorsey assembled a team within the cap that was competitive across the board sufficient to win in the playoffs. Outside the 2ndary which wasn't tested [Raper played an ABYSMAL game], they collectively laid an egg in the one game that mattered.

It's rough, and it's rougher given our history. But this past loss was not a continuation of 40 years of the same thing. It was a much better team than we've had in the past having a collective off day at the worst possible time.

I hoped that they got it out of their system with the Titans game, but there was a hangover from that that bit them in the ass.

Alex has nothing to do with Grbac, Bono, Kreig, DeBerg, etc. Certainly nothing to do with Croyle, Cassel, Palko or Thigpen.

A year or two in the NFL can be a lifetime. Despite what we feel as fans, correlations don't survive for generations.

Heck, Romo [and the entire Cowboys org] has as much heartache over the past 20 years in the playoffs as we do, and people are looking to him as a surefire savior even as he enters his Levitra years.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Babbly Lee thinks drafting the Matt Blundins, Steve Matthews, Steve Stenstroms, Pat Barnes, James Killians, Brodie Croyles, Ricky Stanzis, Aaron Murrays and Kevin Hogans of the draft is the best option.

They're no Rich Scanlon, I'll give you that

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

If Alex is on the roster in March then Andy and Dorsey have failed. They are shoving a shit QB up our ass just like Pioli and they don't care. Nobody nation wide would look at the game film and think Smith will get us anywhere. His stats suck and we didn't win because of him.

Andy would never go on tv so early in the off season and say a negative but I don't like hearing it and none of us should be happy to hear it at all.

12-4

6-0 in division

Led league in dropped passes

Alex Smith Sucks !

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Babbly Lee thinks drafting the Matt Blundins, Steve Matthews, Steve Stenstroms, Pat Barnes, James Killians, Brodie Croyles, Ricky Stanzis, Aaron Murrays and Kevin Hogans of the draft is the best option.

Can't risk picks on a QB when you need the rest of the roster to be perfect to make up for the weaknesses of a retread QB.

**** you, **** you, and GO **** YOURSELF.

I've repeatedly said entirely the opposite. But you're too much of a pussy to actually argue what I DO SAY. Much more convenient to make up a ridiculous position and ridicule that, despite the utter lack of integrity.

The only differentiation is I trust the scouting efforts of Dorsey's admin over the dartboard genius of CP. If he finds what he likes, I'm completely on board with him moving heaven and earth [and Berry, Poe, Houston and Kelce, if he thinks it necessary] to obtain him.

You ought to be out on the Million Vagina March with that shit.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Thats the thing, Smith won lose you games, but he will very rarely win you games. He will very very rarely take a game over with his arm. I learned quite a few years back, that in order to win a Superbowl without and Elite QB you have to have an insane defense and have absolutely everything go your way. If they do not happen, you are ****ed. Elite QB's have so much more room for error.

We have seen this over and over and over being a Chiefs fan.

The Bears had an insane defense as you speak of and were spotted 7 points from kick off with Devin Hester return for a touchdown but Peyton Manning picked that defense apart. Didn't help the Bears that Rex Grossman stepped on their own nuts but Peyton Manning still won the Colts that Super Bowl.