Am I the only one who feels kind of encouraged?

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I am very encouraged by Mahomes- he outplayed Brady in every statistic.

Discouraged by Veech and his complete lack of judgment concerning defensive talent.

Burn this D to the ground in the offseason.

Give Veach a chance. He's barely been on the job, and his targeting of Mahomes alone is worth 5 failed drafts.

But really, what talent has he judged? Fuller was good last year, I assume he'd stop sucking ass if we had competent outside corners and he could play slot more consistently. All the scrubs like Murray etc are not on him. It's way too early to judge Speaks, even though he looks like a bad fit, but maybe he knows we're switching schemes soon or something?

But man, **** that. Some of you guys have stupid dumb expectations. No GM is perfect, and if you have a GM that can perfectly identify a franchise QB when almost no other team could? ****, that buys him a few years in my book. If we're still shitty in 3 years, by all means I'll want him fired.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Give Veach a chance. He's barely been on the job, and his targeting of Mahomes alone is worth 5 failed drafts.

But really, what talent has he judged? Fuller was good last year, I assume he'd stop sucking ass if we had competent outside corners and he could play slot more consistently. All the scrubs like Murray etc are not on him. It's way too early to judge Speaks, even though he looks like a bad fit, but maybe he knows we're switching schemes soon or something?

But man, **** that. Some of you guys have stupid dumb expectations. No GM is perfect, and if you have a GM that can perfectly identify a franchise QB when almost no other team could? ****, that buys him a few years in my book. If we're still shitty in 3 years, by all means I'll want him fired.

I didn't say I wanted Veech fired. But to pay Watkins that kind of money- overpay on Hitchens, waste draft stock on reaches and completely failed at bringing any talent other than Fuller to beef up the secondary. Pretty bad offseason.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I didn't say I wanted Veech fired. But to pay Watkins that kind of money- overpay on Hitchens, waste draft stock on reaches and completely failed at bringing any talent other than Fuller to beef up the secondary. Pretty bad offseason.

So you're basically expecting a perfect GM. All I can say is good luck. Every fan in the league complains about the bad, even in NE who have had MORE than their share of draft failures, all bailed out by having Brady. Literal end of story.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

So you're basically expecting a perfect GM. All I can say is good luck. Every fan in the league complains about the bad, even in NE who have had MORE than their share of draft failures, all bailed out by having Brady. Literal end of story.

Can you point to a single move in the 2018 offseason and say Veach did a good job? All I can see is Nnadi and getting a sucker to trade for Smith.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Can you point to a single move in the 2018 offseason and say Veach did a good job? All I can see is Nnadi and getting a sucker to trade for Smith.

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

So you're basically expecting a perfect GM. All I can say is good luck. Every fan in the league complains about the bad, even in NE who have had MORE than their share of draft failures, all bailed out by having Brady. Literal end of story.

I'm really curious about how our scouting is so good on offense and special teams and so bad on defense. We're plucking offensive and special teams gems in middle and late rounds, yet can't get a decent defensive player in early rounds. Who's making the final scouting recommendations on defensive talent acquisition?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

So you're basically expecting a perfect GM. All I can say is good luck. Every fan in the league complains about the bad, even in NE who have had MORE than their share of draft failures, all bailed out by having Brady. Literal end of story.

I love Veech- but he has failed us on the defensive side of the ball so far.

Prime example- 2 of our worst defensive players from the last few years - Zombo and Parker are still starters on this shit defensive squad. Seriously? Veech could not find the 100th worse players to take over for the 129th worst?

He needs to start over after this year. Fire Sutton and bring in a young aggressive D coordinator that can begin a Real rebuild from the bottom up. Let the new guy bring in an entirely new staff.

Make the hard choices like- Cutting Berry- take the HUGE cap loss which will suck, but he hasn't played in forever and can't even get himself on the practice field. This contract will haunt us for several more years. There is no reason he should keep taking up a roster spot.

Move Fuller back to the slot where he was a stud.

Force Houston to restructure or cut him. His production does not come close to matching his paycheck.

Cut Ragland, Scandrick, Parker, Zombo, Sorensen.

All of these points have been gone over many, many times on here, so it is not new info.

Let's see how much of this list Veech actually gets done by kickoff of next year.

[Iowanian]

This offense showed that they are never out of a game, and I believe they can hang 40 on any team in the league. Mahomes looked rattled in the first half and came out throwing fire in the second....that's a good learning-growth experience and he answered the challenge. I love seeing that.

The defense isn't good right now with a full group of starters, and they have some key injuries right now. The safeties were the big concern but truthfully they weren't the problem last night. Brady is going to make plays and get some yards.

My bigger concern is the run defense. Ragland and Hitchens have a guard in their face on every run play. I can't decide if the D line is failing to hold up blockers, or if they are having trouble shedding them, but I'm concerned about the run game defense. Berry needs to get his ass on the field, or to IR so that spot can be filled with a body.

That said....if you had given me information that the Chiefs were going to be 5-1 at the end of this 6 game stretch I'd have been thrilled. This loss hurt a little last night and today, but big picture there is no shame in losing that game on a last second FG after being down 15 on the road in NE.

I'm encouraged.....my bad girlfriend has a legit chance to completely break my heart again at the end of the year, because we're doing so good and I don't think they'll cheat on me again...they promised.

[smithandrew051]

Encouraged that we didn’t give up. Encouraged that the offense is never completely out of it. Encouraged that literally no defense in the league can even really slow them down (both scoring and yardage).

Discouraged that we had a golden opportunity to seize the AFC and came out so flat. Discouraged by the defense. Discouraged that Breeland Speaks talked about this being a moral victory. We need to act like true contenders instead of having a defeatist mentally that almost beating New England is good enough.

**** Speaks. You need to get your fatass pissed off after that performance. Be ****ing angry about it.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I watched some of the postgame interviews—I get this same sense from our players that they’re encouraged more than anything and they know that they’re going to get back on track next week, hauling ass straight towards another shot at New England.

Their confidence is still high, maybe even higher. Just need some fortune with health and a move or two and I think we’re going to the Super Bowl.

[Iowanian]

Speaks actually didn't play too bad, and he put pressure on Brady several times.

I think he lost the big sack because he tried to roll and not put a hit on Brady and didn't want to get flagged.....pretty much what he said and the league rules are shitting on defense right now.


Also, that's about 3 weeks in a row with obvious yellow flag bias....didn't really make an excuse, but there were some tacky calls on the Chiefs(several were legit) but the Chiefs defense was getting mugged to save Brady with no holding calls....

[Chiefnj2]

I find it hard to be encouraged when you have one of the worst defenses in the league. This is the Vermeil years all over again.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I find it hard to be encouraged when you have one of the worst defenses in the league. This is the Vermeil years all over again.

Almost every team in the league cannot play defense. The Bears just gave up 31 points to Brock ****ing Osweiler. The Jags gave up 40 to the goddamn inept Cowboys.

Man, I was saying this all offseason and people just don't pay attention: the only thing that matters in the NFL is who your QB is.

That's why we were a joke with Smith and will now be a force for years. The title games in both conferences are going to come down to Mahomes/Brady/Ben and Brees/Wentz/Goff/Cousins/Rodgers. And almost none of those teams are any good whatsoever at playing defense.

I assume those with this train of thought think the Ravens are coming out of the AFC?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Almost every team in the league cannot play defense. The Bears just gave up 31 points to Brock ****ing Osweiler. The Jags gave up 40 to the goddamn inept Cowboys.

Man, I was saying this all offseason and people just don't pay attention: the only thing that matters in the NFL is who your QB is.

That's why we were a joke with Smith and will now be a force for years. The title games in both conferences are going to come down to Mahomes/Brady/Ben and Brees/Wentz/Goff/Cousins/Rodgers. And almost none of those teams are any good whatsoever at playing defense.

I assume those with this train of thought think the Ravens are coming out of the AFC?

Heck, the Ravens defense got torched by Andy Dalton. But even in a league with a lot of bad defense, the Chiefs defense still makes you shake your head. The non-existent tackling is particularly ridiculous at the professional level.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Heck, the Ravens defense got torched by Andy Dalton. But even in a league with a lot of bad defense, the Chiefs defense still makes you shake your head. The non-existent tackling is particularly ridiculous at the professional level.

We are the worst in a field of historically bad.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

We are the worst in a field of historically bad.

...with the best QB.

Guess which matters more?

****ing come on. You seem like a smart guy but this negativity is dumb. You're coming off like you'd prefer a brand new and shiny Nissan than a used Ferrari.