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**gblowfish** · 08:24 AM

Twelve Things About Today's Game

12. This week you get an abbreviated version of "Ten Things" because tonight I have a baseball game to win. However, I've added a bonus two things so I can rail twice as long on our failure on Special Teams, and failure of Head Coaching. There was plenty of failure to go around today, but curiously, The Chiefs won the first quarter and the third quarter and only lost the game by five. They had a shot up until the final two minutes. I don't think anybody thought after pre-season that going in to SF would be a road win. Today it was winnable, the Chiefs were "Yosted" by Andy Reid.

11. Offensively, KC started out great. Nice mix of run and pass, clicked on third down conversions, saw Bowe, Charles and Fasano all do well with Kelce capping it off. Smith played ball control, Chiefs chewed up a good portion of the quarter, scored seven, and the D held the Niners to a 50+ field goal. Only problem was, that was one of FIVE FGs they'd get on this day. Have to give Phil Dawson credit, he had balls the size of small dogs today. He was personally responsible for 16 of the Niners 22 points. That's a good day for a kicker.

10. After the first quarter, KC begins to lose the balance of time of possession, and lost it badly for the rest of the game. The game ended up with SF having the ball about 36 minutes, to KC's 24 minutes. They kept saying what a hot day it was in Santa Clara. So what? 90 degrees is nothing to our guys who trained in St. Joseph in August. 90 is a reasonably cool day up there. I thought the defense held up decently for playing in those kind of conditions in October. We also had to overcome shitty ball spots and some great blocking by the officiating crew, as well as their look the other way non-calls. SF had two penalties for ten yards. That's the definition of home cooking. The league office should be ashamed.

9. Defense: Houston took the whole first half off. Of course, he was being held repeatedly throughout the game and it wasn't flagged one single time. He did step it up in the second half, getting Kap once, and flushing him out a couple of other times. But he ended with only one sack and four tackles. Hali was equally absent for a big part of the game. He had one tackle: a good one to stop Gore on a third and short...but only had one stinking tackle and zero sacks. That's unacceptable for an All-Pro. Poe had a half sack, but got run over on several fullback lead plays. Both Gore and Hyde ran right through our middle, Gore had 107 ground yards, most of them between the tackles. Today showed how much we miss Mays and DJ at ILB. Mauga led the team with ten tackles, most of them chasing down somebody from behind.

8. One of the big differences in this game was, SF receivers caught just about everything thrown at them, while KC receivers dropped several balls. Bowe had balls go off his hands. But Brandon Lloyd leapt to pull down a pass over Smith, out-fought him for the football. Jenkins did nothing. Bowe only had three catches, none of them consequential to the game. Kelce and Fasano had six catches between them and Kelce had a TD, but neither could make a play in the fourth quarter when it was sorely needed.

7. Charles also disappeared in the second half. Wasn't his fault, they wouldn't give him the ball. He only had 15 carries. That's criminal. Worse was the use -or non use- of Knile Davis. You have a scorching hot day. You've got a guy who can pound the football hard, or harder than Frank Gore, and the only thing you use the guy on is kickoff returns. Why? He had 30 carries against Miami in similar heat. DAT gets you decent returns, and scores on a pass reception, then you don't see him the rest of the flippin game. Why? Why indeed. It comes down to the Kool Aid Man in the Big Red Muu Muu. We'll get to him in a minute.

6. The special teams performance today was arguably worse than opening day vs. the Titans. Dave Toub was clowned. Completely clowned. The Midget didn't get kickoffs deep enough to prevent returns. Colquitt only averaged 35 yards per punt. Harbaugh fakes a punt on fourth and one and makes it easy, SF only punts twice in the entire game. And the coup de gras was twelve men on the field for a 50+ yard field goal (hence today's 12 Things), which sustained the Niners final drive, and shaved another two minutes off the clock, and sucked all our second half time outs away. That whole scenario was beyond ignorant... that was Oakland Raiders Ignorant. Toub needs to have his feet held to the fire the rest of the year. I don't care if he did coach Devon Hester, today was a piss poor specials coaching job by Toub.

5. One of the things I said in the season opening "Ten Things" after the Titans loss was, "No Guts, No Glory." The Kool Aid man had no guts today, ergo, no glory. Look, nobody expected this team to be world beaters this year. There's really no pressure on Reid as this win would have been seen as a road steal. First half, we have a third and a half yard -because of a bad spot by the refs...something that would happen over and over today...Instead of putting in Knile Davis and pounding it, they stall. And when they try to go for it on fourth and short, the line can't hold its water and false starts. We punt. Then in the second half, they drive inside the Niners 40 yard line, and instead of going for it on fourth, they punt, ball is a touch back (thanks to a nice block on Gaines by the Back Judge) and it's a Net punt of about 20 yards. Stupid. What do you have to lose there?
SF successfully fakes a punt at crunch time, and converts. Again, No Guts, No Glory.

4. Andy Reid is as hard headed about throwing the football as Marty was about running the football. It made no sense to put Alex Smith in a position to have to win this game at the end. We should have used the same formula as used against Miami. There's also a troubling proclivity for Andy to want to get everyone in the mix, instead of riding a hot hand. Hemmingway makes catches, then disappears. Kelce catches a TD, then disappears. Charles runs great in the first half, then disappears. DAT scored in the second half, then doesn't even see the field. I don't get it. Why not ride the guys who kept you in the game?

3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana.

2. We've got a bye, then get ready for Phyllis Rivers. Antonio Gates had a big day for the Bolts today, and I'm sure since our secondary is arguably worse than last year, Phyllis will have a field day against us. I hope we get Eric Berry back. He's going to be six weeks in before seeing his first meaningful action. That's a long time to wait for an All-Pro safety. Meanwhile our All-Pro cornerback will be lining up against Dwayne Bowe and asking him how he's spending his money. Could be a long day, although we played well in SD last year, only to be shafted by a Succop. Ask your favorite Steelers fan about that game. I'm sure they say the word "Succop" and then spit.

1. Andy Reid and Dave Toub lost this one for us, pure and simple. A five point loss, but still a loss. And we have a losing record. 8-8 is looking about right, and is about what I expected this season. Just hate to throw away chances like today. As of this writing, Royals lead LAA 7-2. Let's hope they hold on, and we can concentrate on Royals-Orioles for the next week. Go KC, Go Royals!

Game Pictures from the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le2521689.html

**gblowfish** · 10-06-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

A good portion of the Chiefs' fanbase is comprised of redneck dumb****s. You sure you want to be associated with that instead?

Say that again and I'll pull my thirty-ought-six outta my Ford F-250's gun rack and splatter your innards across the hog slop in the pig pen....hyuck hyuck hyuck....SPIT....

**Mav** · 10-06-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Say that again and I'll pull my thirty-ought-six outta my Ford F-250's gun rack and splatter your innards across the hog slop in the pig pen....hyuck hyuck hyuck....SPIT....

Nice! But does your gun rack, have a gun rack?

**gblowfish** · 10-06-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Nice! But does your gun rack, have a gun rack?

Nope, but it has Yosemite Sam "Back Off" mudflaps and bright red plastic testicles hangin' from the trailer hitch.

DenverChief · 10-06-2014, 02:57 PM

I really wish we would go after praeter. We need a kicker that can make a 50+ yd fg

rabblerouser · 10-06-2014, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I really wish we would go after praeter. We need a kicker that can make a 50+ yd fg

Detroit already cut their kicker and are bringing in Prater and Jay Feely for tryouts.

DenverChief · 10-06-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Detroit already cut their kicker and are bringing in Prater and Jay Feely for tryouts.

Of course

thabear04 · 10-06-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I really wish we would go after praeter. We need a kicker that can make a 50+ yd fg

They should of kick of a FG when it was 4th and 1 it was a 53 yard. If they wanted to test him and see if he can kick far why not.

**MahiMike** · 10-06-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Our receivers are not good by any stretch. I don't think anyone would argue that.. But how you guys fail to see that falls mostly on Alex is beyond me. He just doesn't use his receivers. He's shown it time and time again.

Every QB has to trust his receivers. If you want Alex to throw more picks while watching his WR's lose the battle, then I guess we could go this route.

**MahiMike** · 10-06-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Detroit already cut their kicker and are bringing in Prater and Jay Feely for tryouts.

At least there's 2 of them. We'll take whichever one they pass on.

ThaVirus · 10-06-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Every QB has to trust his receivers. If you want Alex to throw more picks while watching his WR's lose the battle, then I guess we could go this route.

Alex has zero trust in any receiver he's ever played with, apparently.

OldSchool · 10-06-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Alex has zero trust in any receiver he's ever played with, apparently.

No, he trusts Bowe even though Bowe has failed him on numerous occasions.

Multiple dropped 1st down passes from last year to this year.

Failed to keep his foot inbounds on the final play vs Indy, one of the basics to being a NFL WR.

Failed Smith against the 49ers when Smith took a hit but still delivered the ball down field to where Bowe could run and catch it, Bowe failed to track it and it fell incomplete.

That's our most dependable receiving option. The rest are far worse. Hell, even Kelce failed to hang on to a quick pitch that would have gotten us a 1st down on the 3rd down play.

InChiefsHeaven · 10-06-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04

They should of kick of a FG when it was 4th and 1 it was a 53 yard. If they wanted to test him and see if he can kick far why not.

NSFW:

OldSchool · 10-06-2014, 03:24 PM

Another thing about the decision to punt instead of going for it.

The defense failed, drive after drive, to force the 49ers to punt the ball. What the hell made Reid think that they would suddenly be successful at doing it that late in the game with the 49ers run game gaining 5+ yards a carry?

durtyrute · 10-06-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If it all came down to that, then the Chiefs didn't DESERVE to win.

It ended the moment Reid passed the ball on 2nd and 1, 3rd and 1, and had called a pass on 4th and 1, but the O-line had a false start, so we ended up punting.

You have the BEST RB TANDEM IN THE LEAGUE, with a 2nd and 1...and. you. PUNT.

That is the moment the game ended.

And that was before halftime.

I was screaming my ****ing head off at that shit.

**Mav** · 10-06-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I really wish we would go after praeter. We need a kicker that can make a 50+ yd fg

Trying out with Detroit this week

10-05-2014, 07:39 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17666178 VARSITY	Twelve Things About Today's Game Twelve Things About Today's Game 12. This week you get an abbreviated version of "Ten Things" because tonight I have a baseball game to win. However, I've added a bonus two things so I can rail twice as long on our failure on Special Teams, and failure of Head Coaching. There was plenty of failure to go around today, but curiously, The Chiefs won the first quarter and the third quarter and only lost the game by five. They had a shot up until the final two minutes. I don't think anybody thought after pre-season that going in to SF would be a road win. Today it was winnable, the Chiefs were "Yosted" by Andy Reid. 11. Offensively, KC started out great. Nice mix of run and pass, clicked on third down conversions, saw Bowe, Charles and Fasano all do well with Kelce capping it off. Smith played ball control, Chiefs chewed up a good portion of the quarter, scored seven, and the D held the Niners to a 50+ field goal. Only problem was, that was one of FIVE FGs they'd get on this day. Have to give Phil Dawson credit, he had balls the size of small dogs today. He was personally responsible for 16 of the Niners 22 points. That's a good day for a kicker. 10. After the first quarter, KC begins to lose the balance of time of possession, and lost it badly for the rest of the game. The game ended up with SF having the ball about 36 minutes, to KC's 24 minutes. They kept saying what a hot day it was in Santa Clara. So what? 90 degrees is nothing to our guys who trained in St. Joseph in August. 90 is a reasonably cool day up there. I thought the defense held up decently for playing in those kind of conditions in October. We also had to overcome shitty ball spots and some great blocking by the officiating crew, as well as their look the other way non-calls. SF had two penalties for ten yards. That's the definition of home cooking. The league office should be ashamed. 9. Defense: Houston took the whole first half off. Of course, he was being held repeatedly throughout the game and it wasn't flagged one single time. He did step it up in the second half, getting Kap once, and flushing him out a couple of other times. But he ended with only one sack and four tackles. Hali was equally absent for a big part of the game. He had one tackle: a good one to stop Gore on a third and short...but only had one stinking tackle and zero sacks. That's unacceptable for an All-Pro. Poe had a half sack, but got run over on several fullback lead plays. Both Gore and Hyde ran right through our middle, Gore had 107 ground yards, most of them between the tackles. Today showed how much we miss Mays and DJ at ILB. Mauga led the team with ten tackles, most of them chasing down somebody from behind. 8. One of the big differences in this game was, SF receivers caught just about everything thrown at them, while KC receivers dropped several balls. Bowe had balls go off his hands. But Brandon Lloyd leapt to pull down a pass over Smith, out-fought him for the football. Jenkins did nothing. Bowe only had three catches, none of them consequential to the game. Kelce and Fasano had six catches between them and Kelce had a TD, but neither could make a play in the fourth quarter when it was sorely needed. 7. Charles also disappeared in the second half. Wasn't his fault, they wouldn't give him the ball. He only had 15 carries. That's criminal. Worse was the use -or non use- of Knile Davis. You have a scorching hot day. You've got a guy who can pound the football hard, or harder than Frank Gore, and the only thing you use the guy on is kickoff returns. Why? He had 30 carries against Miami in similar heat. DAT gets you decent returns, and scores on a pass reception, then you don't see him the rest of the flippin game. Why? Why indeed. It comes down to the Kool Aid Man in the Big Red Muu Muu. We'll get to him in a minute. 6. The special teams performance today was arguably worse than opening day vs. the Titans. Dave Toub was clowned. Completely clowned. The Midget didn't get kickoffs deep enough to prevent returns. Colquitt only averaged 35 yards per punt. Harbaugh fakes a punt on fourth and one and makes it easy, SF only punts twice in the entire game. And the coup de gras was twelve men on the field for a 50+ yard field goal (hence today's 12 Things), which sustained the Niners final drive, and shaved another two minutes off the clock, and sucked all our second half time outs away. That whole scenario was beyond ignorant... that was Oakland Raiders Ignorant. Toub needs to have his feet held to the fire the rest of the year. I don't care if he did coach Devon Hester, today was a piss poor specials coaching job by Toub. 5. One of the things I said in the season opening "Ten Things" after the Titans loss was, "No Guts, No Glory." The Kool Aid man had no guts today, ergo, no glory. Look, nobody expected this team to be world beaters this year. There's really no pressure on Reid as this win would have been seen as a road steal. First half, we have a third and a half yard -because of a bad spot by the refs...something that would happen over and over today...Instead of putting in Knile Davis and pounding it, they stall. And when they try to go for it on fourth and short, the line can't hold its water and false starts. We punt. Then in the second half, they drive inside the Niners 40 yard line, and instead of going for it on fourth, they punt, ball is a touch back (thanks to a nice block on Gaines by the Back Judge) and it's a Net punt of about 20 yards. Stupid. What do you have to lose there? SF successfully fakes a punt at crunch time, and converts. Again, No Guts, No Glory. 4. Andy Reid is as hard headed about throwing the football as Marty was about running the football. It made no sense to put Alex Smith in a position to have to win this game at the end. We should have used the same formula as used against Miami. There's also a troubling proclivity for Andy to want to get everyone in the mix, instead of riding a hot hand. Hemmingway makes catches, then disappears. Kelce catches a TD, then disappears. Charles runs great in the first half, then disappears. DAT scored in the second half, then doesn't even see the field. I don't get it. Why not ride the guys who kept you in the game? 3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana. 2. We've got a bye, then get ready for Phyllis Rivers. Antonio Gates had a big day for the Bolts today, and I'm sure since our secondary is arguably worse than last year, Phyllis will have a field day against us. I hope we get Eric Berry back. He's going to be six weeks in before seeing his first meaningful action. That's a long time to wait for an All-Pro safety. Meanwhile our All-Pro cornerback will be lining up against Dwayne Bowe and asking him how he's spending his money. Could be a long day, although we played well in SD last year, only to be shafted by a Succop. Ask your favorite Steelers fan about that game. I'm sure they say the word "Succop" and then spit. 1. Andy Reid and Dave Toub lost this one for us, pure and simple. A five point loss, but still a loss. And we have a losing record. 8-8 is looking about right, and is about what I expected this season. Just hate to throw away chances like today. As of this writing, Royals lead LAA 7-2. Let's hope they hold on, and we can concentrate on Royals-Orioles for the next week. Go KC, Go Royals! Game Pictures from the KC Star: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le2521689.html Last edited by gblowfish; 10-08-2014 at 08:24 AM..
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