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irishjayhawk · 10-13-2007, 11:31 PM

Yeah, so I saw a lot of movies this weekend.

Elizabeth: The Golden Age - Mediocre, at best. Slow and dragged on. Shorten it to 2 hours and it's golden. It's not, so it fails.

Michael Clayton - Amazing. Everything about it is awesome. However, it's VERY complex and mind bending. You have to think, so be prepared. I still feel like I'm missing key details of exactly what happened. Gotta see it again.

Across the Universe - Perfect is one word that comes to mind. It just works. And, contrary to many people I bet, the movie is best viewed sober. Trust me.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-06-2009, 09:57 AM

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/04/...ionwide-press/

**Fire Me Boy!** · 08-06-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

Transformers 2 lost about half it's audience each week. That's not good. Word of mouth is what kills a movie that doesn't screen for critics. They may have a decent opening, but then there will be a huge drop the next week after people realize it really DOES suck.

They don't screen movies in the hopes that at least the first weekend will be bigger.

Date (click to view chart)	Rank	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theaters	Change / Avg.		Gross-to-Date	Week #
Jun 26–28	1	$108,966,307	-	4,234	-	$25,736	$200,077,255	1
Jul 3–5	1	$42,320,877	-61.2%	4,234	-	$9,995	$293,355,885	2
Jul 10–12	3	$24,213,875	-42.8%	4,293	+59	$5,640	$339,221,800	3
Jul 17–19	3	$13,691,487	-43.5%	3,857	-436	$3,550	$363,808,123	4
Jul 24–26	6	$8,124,427	-40.7%	3,237	-620	$2,510	$379,214,172	5
Jul 31–Aug 2	10	$4,688,329	-42.3%	2,626	-611	$1,785	$388,189,320	6

You're completely missing my point.

I'm totally aware of movies that generally don't screen sucking balls. I've reviewed movies that didn't open for critics... a couple of which you actually referenced in your next post. I certainly don't need a movie biz lesson from you.

All I'm saying is that Transformers 2 raked in the money the first week, and remained top of the bill in week 2. And that was WITH bad press. These producers aren't screening for critics because they know it'll get bad press, but it'll do fine on the money anyway. Without the bad press, it'll do better.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 08-06-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/04/...ionwide-press/

For ****'s sake, please stop. I reviewed movies for six years and hold a bachelor's degree in film. I'm aware of what you're saying. You're trying to prove a point that I already get. You are missing the point of my post and thoughts.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 08-06-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

For ****'s sake, please stop. I reviewed movies for six years and hold a bachelor's degree in film. I'm aware of what you're saying. You're trying to prove a point that I already get. You are missing the point of my post and thoughts.

You're not the only person who reads this board, so it's not all about you.

That aside, you're the one who seems to want to take them at their word that the movie doesn't suck. It will.

That's the only point that matters.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 08-06-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

You're not the only person who reads this board, so it's not all about you.

That aside, you're the one who seems to want to take them at their word that the movie doesn't suck. It will.

That's the only point that matters.

Where in ANY of my posts did I say was going to be good? **** no. I sure as hell am not going. What I said was it'll make its money. Armageddon made money, and it was total crap. The point I was making, that you STILL don't seem to get, is that whether it's crap or not, the masses are going to go see it and it's going to make money. The critics will have no say in that, and even if they did I don't think it'd matter much.

And truly, my apologies if you were actually posting those articles for anyone's benefit other than mine. You were actively speaking to my point, so it would be natural to assume your articles were directed toward me. So piss off with the "it's not all about you" comment. That was not my intention, and I think you know that.

Jenson71 · 08-06-2009, 01:22 PM

I watched North Country last night. It wasn't treated as seriously as it should have been. It was far too formulaic to rise above the treshold of 'inspiring, touching, powerful' movies that any studio and director can hand out to an audience.

The story is about sexual harrassment, and revolves around a landmark state court case dealing with that issue. It is treated though as heavy as the northern accents used by the actors to portray simple, working class Minnesota life. The treatment the woman at the mine go through is almost surreal and seems foreign or ancient. It thows this on the audience, and then counters it with sentimentality that seems far too quick and lacking any development. Consider the main character's (played by the talented Charlize Theron) father. In one scene, he talks about how the daughter has disgraced their family all her life. Within moments, he is sticking up for her at a union meeting. Not enough introspection on his part warrants this dramatic change, which is a pivotal scene in the movie.

The courtroom scenes aren't good, far too melodramatic, like when a lawyer belittles a witness hard enough that he makes an aburpt and key change in his testimony without any objections from the opposing lawyer, or when the courtroom stands up in solidarity with our heroine. It was eerily similar to Disney's Angels in the Outfield when the entire crowd stands up and flaps their arms in the big game. Or when the heroine's friend Glory, now half dead with Lou Gehrig's Disease, knocks on the walls to get the attention of the court and has her husband read a statement that only the heroine would really understand.

Charlize Theron is a good actress though and her showing of love for her children and the problems she goes through are acted ith care and subtly. The events, however, are not, and neither are the direction of those events. Do audiences not understand the wrongness of sexual harrassment unless they visually see a man's sperm on a female coworker's jacket and her breakdown in response? Can audiences only understand a change in a person's feelings through a powerful eureka moment? In those regards, it was a little disappointing, though the cinematography, lead actors, and Bob Dylan soundtrack (a man from Minnesota who sang of a girl from the north country) held it together.

Sure-Oz · 08-06-2009, 09:57 PM

Ok, so i spoke too soon on gijoe about suprisingly decent reviews...

now with 29 total reviews 1 from a top critic its at 55%....

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2009, 12:05 AM

55 percent is watchable

I'll probably go see it.

Need to see Potter, Transformers, first.

Sure-Oz · 08-07-2009, 08:07 AM

Gijoe down to a 41% with still just one TOP Critic that has posted a review on it.....

this movie will suck, but i guess it was kindve obvious it would with Marlon Wayans starring in it

blaise · 08-07-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Gijoe down to a 41% with still just one TOP Critic that has posted a review on it.....

this movie will suck, but i guess it was kindve obvious it would with Marlon Wayans starring in it

Now I know it sucks, and knowing is half the battle.

Sure-Oz · 08-07-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise

Now I know it sucks, and knowing is half the battle.

Frazod · 08-07-2009, 09:47 AM

Stumbled across this at IMDB - they're remaking Red Dawn, with the guy who played Kirk's father in Star Trek in the Patrick Swayze roll. Apparently this time around it's the Chinese who attack.

Why..... just, why?

Simply Red · 08-07-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Stumbled across this at IMDB - they're remaking Red Dawn, with the guy who played Kirk's father in Star Trek in the Patrick Swayze roll. Apparently this time around it's the Chinese who attack.

Why..... just, why?

exactly

Sure-Oz · 08-07-2009, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Stumbled across this at IMDB - they're remaking Red Dawn, with the guy who played Kirk's father in Star Trek in the Patrick Swayze roll. Apparently this time around it's the Chinese who attack.

Why..... just, why?

The movie is great on it's own, i mean you can't top swayze and powers boothe!

**QuikSsurfer** · 08-07-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise

Now I know it sucks, and knowing is half the battle.

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08-06-2009, 01:22 PM	#3291
Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	I watched North Country last night. It wasn't treated as seriously as it should have been. It was far too formulaic to rise above the treshold of 'inspiring, touching, powerful' movies that any studio and director can hand out to an audience. The story is about sexual harrassment, and revolves around a landmark state court case dealing with that issue. It is treated though as heavy as the northern accents used by the actors to portray simple, working class Minnesota life. The treatment the woman at the mine go through is almost surreal and seems foreign or ancient. It thows this on the audience, and then counters it with sentimentality that seems far too quick and lacking any development. Consider the main character's (played by the talented Charlize Theron) father. In one scene, he talks about how the daughter has disgraced their family all her life. Within moments, he is sticking up for her at a union meeting. Not enough introspection on his part warrants this dramatic change, which is a pivotal scene in the movie. The courtroom scenes aren't good, far too melodramatic, like when a lawyer belittles a witness hard enough that he makes an aburpt and key change in his testimony without any objections from the opposing lawyer, or when the courtroom stands up in solidarity with our heroine. It was eerily similar to Disney's Angels in the Outfield when the entire crowd stands up and flaps their arms in the big game. Or when the heroine's friend Glory, now half dead with Lou Gehrig's Disease, knocks on the walls to get the attention of the court and has her husband read a statement that only the heroine would really understand. Charlize Theron is a good actress though and her showing of love for her children and the problems she goes through are acted ith care and subtly. The events, however, are not, and neither are the direction of those events. Do audiences not understand the wrongness of sexual harrassment unless they visually see a man's sperm on a female coworker's jacket and her breakdown in response? Can audiences only understand a change in a person's feelings through a powerful eureka moment? In those regards, it was a little disappointing, though the cinematography, lead actors, and Bob Dylan soundtrack (a man from Minnesota who sang of a girl from the north country) held it together.
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08-06-2009, 09:57 PM	#3292
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $3429383	Ok, so i spoke too soon on gijoe about suprisingly decent reviews... now with 29 total reviews 1 from a top critic its at 55%....
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08-07-2009, 12:05 AM	#3293
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08-07-2009, 08:07 AM	#3294
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $3429383	Gijoe down to a 41% with still just one TOP Critic that has posted a review on it..... this movie will suck, but i guess it was kindve obvious it would with Marlon Wayans starring in it
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08-07-2009, 09:47 AM	#3297
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3135085	Yes, Hollywood is officially out of new ideas.... Stumbled across this at IMDB - they're remaking Red Dawn, with the guy who played Kirk's father in Star Trek in the Patrick Swayze roll. Apparently this time around it's the Chinese who attack. Why..... just, why?
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